What Wrexham rl fans? As for just Leeds that's not true there are at least 2 crusaders fans up from south Wales but seeing as it's a Friday and it's 3 hrs in the car and 4 on the train most won't be able to get there cos of work hurray for sky sports

I don't think they will, they will have local players and a fanbase now. As long as they don't make a mad dash for promotion at the cost of stability they will survive in the long term. They may be unlikely to make SL, at least for the immediate future, but a Welsh side in the Championship or Championship 1 is a good thing in its own right, especially one with Welsh players and the game isn't just SL or nothing



The 1996 team didn't fail as such, they had a hissy fit and quit the game when they weren't promoted 2 divisions straight from a midtable finish in Division 2 (they were offered promotion to Division 1 though)

Wrexham makes a lot of sense. But once again its not by design its by luck. The RFLs franchising system is pathetic. The NRL are so tough and strict when it comes to handing out franchises. Infrastructure, long term finances etc. are everything. The RFL just hand a cheque over and hope for the best.



I seriously hope it works in Wrexham, we really dont need more Lancs/Merseyside/Yorks clubs in SL. But if not Toulouse should come in not Widnes.



Widnes can replace Salford or Wakey in a couple of years.

Having wrecked one expansion side through overambition, your conclusion is that we ought to wreck another.

Basically yes that's what his lot think. They kill more expansion clubs than anyone else.



People like him care nothing for the development of the game and only care about the geographical locations of SL teams and don't care how many expansion clubs they kill to achieve this. If a club is a good club it doesn't matter what their geographical location is, this is a sport and business not a geography lesson

Yeh lets replace one failed experiment with a team that couldn't even compete in the Championship. By hook or by crook we will have expansion!!

Expansion loonies the lot of them. Yet reasoned opposition is deemed to be 'ignorant flatcappery'.

It is quite noticeable how apart from loony Dally M most of the usual suspects are avoiding the recent threads

They're having a meal in here - humble pie i think and discussing where to go next with all this.........

We're not gone yet people.



Another thing you need to consider is the club had 3,600+ average having finished bottom with only 3 wins. That is more than harlequins managed after a much better season.



If we move to Wrexham it will be purely down to no money from the backer not lack of support. I, for one, was quite happy with the average attendance and it gave us something to build on. I was also over the moon with the youth development and players of potential have shown up literally overnight.



Let's just realise why we're moving and the fact if Samuel still had money to pump into the club the venture would have succeeded down here. Most things point to that fact other than the rubbish way the powers that be ran the club.

The RFL loathe to admit to admit mistakes, and this folly will cost more before the plug is pulled I suspect. No-one recall the mid nineties South Welsh floundering

Yes but every other time has been a 'quick fix' set up with ageing union players or past it northerners with nothing coming through the youth ranks.



This time was different and the youth were coming on and will come on nicely. It is just sad Leighton Samuel doesn't have enough money to continue funding the club.