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Woah and I wasn't involved in this one

I'm more interested in venting my spleen about the rugby, and all associated comments!



Racism is deeply ignorant and is not worthy of any response - hence, it didn't get one from me!



Still, I'm a morngy old git!!

The thing is South Wales has produced many good RL players over the years and will continue to do so



That is not the problem



The problem is that not enough people over the years have been interested enough to pay to watch them play RL



That is the problem



In fact getting people to pay to watch is much harder than finding players to play , you only have to look at many other clubs to see that

Hi Fev fan, whilst put in the most antagonistic way possible (as you'd expect from trolling) I'm happy to answer the questions



Would we like to see more fans at a game? Obviously yes, who wouldn't - but the average attandance thus far is 4372 (a point Ganeden chose not to make) and given the distance to travel to Bridgend we need a strong home support to show the game is capable of developing.



Do I think we can make it in Super League? Judge us after this time next year but good signs in terms of developing youth teams that will auger well for the future (granted not the near future)



How do we compare against NL teams? If we'd been around for a 100 years not so well but given that we've only been around for three, we lack the heritage and geography of the NL teams (i.e. not around the M62), that said if you look at what has been developed over the last three years compared to some of the teams that have been around for a lot longer I don't think we're better than all but look how far we've come in such a short space of time. The argument regarding how the RL has helped us is valid in some ways but can we all wait for a 100 years to be accepted and develop SL? I don't think so do you?



And the biggest question of all....... do we want to win a game? Too bloody right. Really nice of opposition fans to compliment us on how good we are but there's nothing better than two points to prove that is there?

interesting point starbug. there is definitely a different process in getting people to play and getting people to pay. Indeed i would say they are two completely different cultures that sometimes overlap.

I do think however that pariticipation impacts in two different ways: one it injects rugby league into conversations, makes it part of the fabric of the area - a kinda of softening up so that efforts to generate support or awareness of the professional 'speccie' side isnt being sown in totally unfertile ground. Also: the best of those participating get professional terms and play for the local professional side are able to represent the area creating and deepening peoples attachment to the side. We've never had an established, top tier team for those players to go to. This will be the crucial difference in turning participation into support.

when it comes to comparisons i'd like to be compared to all other teams averages with their main derbies taken out. of course doing this would expose a weakness of the game that some people would rather not reflect on, headline figures are much nicer.

Derbies?? Aganst Toulose, Gateshead, Barrow, Whitehaven, -Workington (CC)????? Not exactly Derbies are they???

Widnes isn't exactly on the doorstep and from Rotherham isn't much further than s wales for the away game!



I'm happy for you to take away the crowds that Sheffield, Batley and Donny have on our average attendances........given the amount of away support it'd probably increase that average!!!!



Don't let the diversion of the M62 distract you though!!!!

So definitely not a true RL supporter then.

eh? How do you make that out! I watched and supported the game for 36 years since I was a lad of 12. And this from an area devoid of RL!!. But the way the politics of the game has removed opportunities for my club, I've become very insular in my attitude. Yet for the forums sake, you interpret that as not being a true supporter???





if you like!

Crowds will rocket once you guys start winning, which will happen as once you sort the leaky defence out the team isn't bad at all.

and there's the litmus test spooner owd cock!

If the welsh club win a few and the paying crowds increase to a sustainable level, fair do's. There's the rub.

If they don't, the wales project will need some evaluating. Same could be said of any club!

Time will indeed tell if the club is a success or the scars on the dead horses corpse from excessive flogging! - That's the question that Ganeden so badly put and which I (sot of) thought was a question worth asking!

As I said, most of you think it's too early and that's fair enough - I'll live with your point of view. I'll disagree in the knowledge that it doesn't matter a hoot anyway what I think!