And what clock would that be?

You really think we are performing as well as we can with what we have? And that someone else couldnt have us playing a bit better?

With this squad - no, not quite. But not a million miles away tbh. A bit better, as you say.There have been too many really bad performances. To me 12 wins looked about par, with a shot at 8th. The squad was too thin and young to expect much more, though you always hope. We're roughly on course for that.



A starting front row yesterday of Carlile, Beaumont and Walker, with Cox, Green and Griffin on the bench. Plenty of potential, but not one of those would count as a seasoned SL player, yet, IMO.

This is it.



Many fans expectations are way out of control for the level of inexperience we have in the squad.



The reason why some of us Sandercock supporters think he's worth persevering with is because we can see that under his guidance, the likely hood of say for instance the 6 player MR has named above, will improve out of sight if given another couple of years.



Time for some folk to wake up and smell the coffee.

This is it.



Many fans expectations are way out of control for the level of inexperience we have in the squad.



The reason why some of us Sandercock supporters think he's worth persevering with is because we can see that under his guidance, the likely hood of say for instance the 6 player MR has named above, will improve out of sight if given another couple of years.



Time for some folk to wake up and smell the coffee.

After hearing mainly top reports of Greg Eden's performances seems puzzling that the coach would drop him for a utility player in Hall.

How did hall play in Eden's absence?

Typical Hall performance, sheer brilliance at times (70 m break leading to 1st try) coupled with really basic errors (failing to find touch on a pen, kicking out on the full on a restart).

Well at least hall and eden don't have a girls name which is vitally important.

I always liked hall at Hull. If only he could concentrate for 80 minutes he'd be a top player.



Still seems strange to drop your full back and play a centre there whilst playing a winger in the centre. Presume eden will come straight back in next week without playing a game to get some form back? Seems a bizarre decision but sandy must have his reasons

Indeed General , but not just the people you are so busy taking issue with...



It seems you have become convinced by Sandercocks excuse culture and are happy to perpetuate the rubbish he comes out with but it does not stand up to scrutiny..

If we take two recent games as examples of our "inexperience" which you cite as the reason we are a pretty poor SL team at the moment and that Sandercock is really just an unlucky Craig Bellamy..



The club record defeat at home to Wigan, a benchmark that has been set in our history, the team we had out that day, even allowing for a nineteen year old debutant , had an average age of 23 and had played an average of 65 top class games each... the Wigan team that ran in a record score with at times the worst resistance i have ever seen from a professional RL team also had an average age of....23..., they had admittedly played an average of 83 games each so perhaps we only have to wait 18 games for the Sandy magic to work and we are as good as Wigan according to your "experience " theory..



Going on to Castleford, and our team lacking 8 "automatic choices" according to the coach, our average age 24 with 77 appearances, the Cas average age 25 with 117 (the figures are somewhat skewed by them having Gilmour 35 and 440 plus appearances), so i fail to see this massive inexperience in either of these games nor any other for that matter...e.g our half backs against Cas had over 310 appearances between them against the Cas pair less than 140, this should really , really tell in a good coaches game plan if your theory is taken to its conclusion...that it didn't can only be a reflection on the coach and his preparation (or lack of it)..



Whilst of course we have had injuries and we do have players who will only benefit from more time and games, this can be said of EVERY SINGLE CLUB...our guys are not the only ones who are going to improve...there are players at every club who will go on to be much better.



What is of major , major concern is that the coach publicly stated at the outset of his contract that a major job of his was to improve the teams defence..in terms of spend and quality of player it is irrefutable that our defence is the worst it has been in the history of the club..this after 18 months of full time , professional training..i would suggest that the players who are going to improve would benefit even more from a coach who can coach defence.



For this appalling failure and the production and preparation of the team to produce the most abject performance in the history of the club and for constantly belittling the club with his excuses and complaints Mr Sandercock should be firmly shown the door...he is not what Hull Kingston Rovers are all about...

Got to say I agree with all you say and the last line is dead true he is not what HULL KINGSTON ROVERS are all about