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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"Why can't other fans visit other teams boards?'"
Not saying the shouldn't, but when it's just for the purposes of trolling like the vast majority of the KR loons coming on here it's just sad and pathetic.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Not saying the shouldn't, but when it's just for the purposes of trolling like the vast majority of the KR loons coming on here it's just sad and pathetic.'"
Not every kr fans trolling though, your always going to get your idiots but I wouldn't tar them all with the same brush.
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| A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.
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| Quote Anakin Skywalker="Anakin Skywalker"That is a rather sweeping statement Kosh.
I thought you were above that.'"
It's an evidence-based statement based on the best available evidence - i.e. this thread. As a scientist I'm more or less obliged to draw conclusions based on available data. 
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| Quote Isaiah="Isaiah"What a silly Richard
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.'"
An eminently sensible post. Doubt it'll gain much traction, mind. 
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh":2txxh6hgIt's an evidence-based statement based on the best available evidence - i.e. this thread. As a scientist I'm more or less obliged to draw conclusions based on available data.
'" :2txxh6hg[Pedant ModeMore than 5 (Or 6 if you want to go there) haven't even commented never mind those showing some level of brightness   [/Pedant Mode
[Tongue in cheek mode As a scientist I thought you would have noticed that [/Tongue in cheek mode'"
I extrapolated.

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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"An eminently sensible post. Doubt it'll gain much traction, mind.
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I didn't want to reply first as it would seem a little false TBH (MR=Rovers mod and I am a Rovers mod).
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"An eminently sensible post. Doubt it'll gain much traction, mind.
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Sensible [iis[/i just a polite euphemism for 'boring' in my case, in fairness.

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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.'"
Started reading it but I saw a small amount of optimism and that is so not allowed on here, so stopped. 
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