we need to get a grip,with our full team playing we are a 5 or 6 placed team, with our injuries we are struggling,the effort was there last night but we just are not good enough,

Let's hope our 8 mystery signings are more in the ellis bracket than the pitts and watts bracket

How do you figure that out? We are in 7th 3 points above 9th, so worse case we end up 8th at the end of this round of fixtures.

Personally i cant see were our next win is going to come from. There are too many players showing no pride in the Hull shirt, as mentioned on countless occasions Turner is a waste of space ever since he 'got homesick' and didnt want to be here he has gone backwards, surely Jack Briscoe, Tom Lineham deserve a chance, im sure they will play with pride even if they do make the odd error, similar to Crooks last nite. How many times has Seymour had kicks charged down? surely it isnt rocket science he needs to drop back an extra cpl of metres or let someone else kick.

I thought Westerman showed a bit of passion last night, going into the tackles hard and seemed to be the only one talking/having a go when we were behind the sticks after a leeds try

Players with no 'pride in the shirt' wouldn't have defended like we did yesterday. Something Gentle alluded to in his post-match interview. Our problem isn't guts, it's brains.

Thought there was plenty of effort last night. Makes me laugh when people claim manu isn't putting the effort in. Must have played an hour last night in his 3rd game in 6 days

Agree Manu has always played with pride and put 100% effort in every game, seems to be more agressive of late too. He is completely different to Turner IMO

Who is our leader on the pitch?

Suprise, suprise some over-reaction again on here...



..."no pride in the shirt", "players aren't good enough" etc, etc....



Not saying we don't need to improve / do better, that's a given, but lets look at this in some context;



10 Players out / injured (according to others on here) - take 10 out of any side and they would struggle

Of those 10 players, a complete front row and one half of our second row!

Turn over of players in short period - yes coaches choice but needs must - without question will effect the fluidity of the side

All of the above meaning players having to pla out of place (Crooks as an example)



Not too sure what people expect...we are still competative and while we are we have a chance to win the game......pride in the shirt? Yes i think the guys do have!

I think Pitts will be a squad player in 2013, not in the first choice XVII.



Watts did well last night, especially considering he's not played a lot of first team rugby this year.



Pearson alluded to two big signings not complete, hopefully Paea wasn't one of them.

Paea has signed a 2 year contract extension at Catalans.

I know, I meant I hope he wasn't one of the two meaning only one left.

good shout thanks for that made me abit happier lol

i dint actually look at the table as you can tell. well after the next round maybe 9th lol hopefully smash the dobbins