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| Tronc is far better than Stos. Completely different class of player.
That's no disrespect to James, he was an honest prop, a good grafter and I wish we still had him. But Shanes game is a class above, could anyone see James popping up the passes Shane does? Could you honestly see James getting the ratings in the NRL Shane got last year.
Shane is the best WT prop I've seen in my 23 years of watching the WT.
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| Quote Outwood Vic="Outwood Vic"Vasty won't be happy
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Jeez, these feeble attempts at point scoring make you look a touch needy.
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| Quote bloomers="bloomers"It is not the word adequate. It is the use of it in the context of adequate replacement for Stosic.
King from what I've seen so far = adequate for 4th prop spot - I'd certainly agree with that
King from what I've seen so far = adeqaute as a replacement for our best prop of 2009 - no'"
It's the context you have got wrong and for reasons best known to yourself won't give ground.
I'll try one more time to put it in a context that suits you.
With the time and money available after the Stosic fiasco I consider King as adequate. Especially when you consider SL props with the experience of King don't grow on trees, also Kear knows him and this must count for something. If you can name me an English player with as good a CV that we could have got in the time I'll be happy to accept him.
Finally you seem to have ignored the fact that I also included Sculthorpe ie both props who have left (perhaps I should have also included Bibey). In other words it wasn't meant to be a player v player comparison.
I'd have loved to have retained Stosic, but you run with what you have. HTH
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| Quote vastman="vastman"It's the context you have got wrong and for reasons best known to yourself won't give ground.
I'll try one more time to put it in a context that suits you.
With the time and money available after the Stosic fiasco I consider King as adequate. Especially when you consider SL props with the experience of King don't go on trees. If you can name me an English player with as good a CV that we could have got in the time I'll be happy to accept him.
As I say I expect people like Vic to peddle their brand of judgemental claptrap (IMO), but really not sure why you have taken such a stance.
Finally both you and the Outwood clown have ignored the fact that I also included Sculthorpe ie both props who have left (perhaps I should have included Bibey). In other words it wasn't meant to be a player v player comparison.
I'd have loved to have retained Stosic, but you run with what you have.'"
sorry vasty but IMHO king couldnt lace sausages boots , not a slur on king but a judgement on much i rated sausage . i think that if he was still available for selection then we would be quite a force to be reckoned with.
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| Quote MUTLEY CAT="MUTLEY CAT"sorry vasty but IMHO king couldnt lace sausages boots , not a slur on king but a judgement on much i rated sausage . i think that if he was still available for selection then we would be quite a force to be reckoned with.'"
He is not comparing King to Stotic though!
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Jeez, these feeble attempts at point scoring make you look a touch needy.'"
Matters not to me my friend. You seem to think that I am deliberatley trying to bait you, when all I was doing was agreeing with Bloomers. Is noboby else allowed an opinion (I did state it was imho), because that's all mine is. I am not trying to state that I am correct (as you seem to do  ), just offering my opinion. I thought we had already established that we have differing views on King and our front row options (KH - utility  ), it's just that JK seems to agree with mine rather than yours
It's also called having a GSOH.................which too many people that use this forum seem to lack.
No agenda pal.
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| Quote SimonBarrett="SimonBarrett"He is not comparing King to Stotic though!'"
King, looks an adequate replacement for Stosic or Sculthorpe

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| Does this mean Tronc could be Trin's best prop since Fritz??
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| Quote SimonBarrett="SimonBarrett"He is not comparing King to Stotic though!'"
THANKYOU!!!
For heavens sake how obvious does it need to be.
Again thanks, I was starting to think I'd gone mad 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"THANKYOU!!!
For heavens sake how obvious does it need to be.
Again thanks, I was starting to think I'd gone mad
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King replacement adequate for stosic  perhaps we have all cracked up
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| Quote Chorlton RL="Chorlton RL"Does this mean Tronc could be Trin's best prop since Fritz??'"
time will tell big boots to fill
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| Quote Outwood Vic="Outwood Vic"King, looks an adequate replacement for Stosic or Sculthorpe
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That's the point, he - is - an - adequate - replacement! No where does that suggest he is as good, that is subjective/opinion and you don't have the monopoly on that even if you are deluded enough to think you and JK are thinking the same.
If Stosic had not cocked up, no one myself included would be suggesting we would have chosen to replace Stosic with King. However there was no choice - was there - hence King was an adequate replacement all things considered - still with me
However for those who can't stomach me using the sainted Stosic as an example I gave you Sculthorpe as an alternative.
So one more time - King is an adequate prop who due to the circumstances at the time was probably the most adequate replacement for Stosic/Sculthorpe (delete to taste) available.
Happy 
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