I don't know what laughable about crowd size ? But if perfomace on the field isn't the main concern in any sport , I fail to see the reason to go to any match. Fev are doing well this season , but even they are not unbeatable, as last week proved. but this is what sport is all about. I appauld the achivements of Fev and other teams in your league. It might be a more enjoyable league to be in ?

I agree entirely with your post wren cat.

The laughable thing about "that" crowd size, 1122, is that's the amount of people watching Crusaders v London!!! Will they be hoofed out of SL???? Will they Hell!!!



Our league is a cracking league. Honestly, striaght up. The Game v Sheff was a belter. 2300+ watched it which was twice the amount of Crusaders! Yet the league is some 'after thought', some irritation to the RFL that would be better if it wasn't there!

The game is on it's @rse. The direction it is going in has cut me adrift from more or less everything but our league.

The future, hopes, aspirations and faith of those who run and follow club rugby is decided upon by a small group of people in whom I have absolutely no faith!

I heard that the Sheffield game was worth watching as both my daughters, (who are Wakey season ticket holders) decided to take advantage of the ladies free day. They both said the level of commitment on the field was intense.

I also seem to remember when Wigan were getting shirty when there was rumbles that they would get hammered back into the NL's over the Dobson/Fielden situation that any club who takes on the governing body can have their membership withdrawn.

Im otherwords try and take it to court and you will be struck off the RFL membership.

Not 100% sure on that but I think that was how it went.

SKY own all sport the large sports in this country Tennis aside.

Dont kid yourself otherwise please mate.

TBH mate all teeth gnashing aside that is probably exactly what the RFL would want/expect.

By 2014 if we (HKR) haven't got our ground sorted (East stand extension and a new north/away stand) I think we will be in the brown smelly stuff you seem to be in.

You all say that the stadium is being paid for by retail units? surely this means it would get built anyway if so then give the RFL no choice in 2014 just like widnes have done and it could be us you replace if we dont do the works I have said.

Losing out in 2012 does in now way mean you wont be in SL ever again..

That's true - at least, I'm sure it's true in the case of Dewsbury, as we then went 180° and offered them a groundshare until they could get their ground up to scratch. It wasn't our finest hour, and I remember being "disappointed" with our decision at the time. I can understand your sentiments.

There is 1 simple answer to all this and that is 2 divisions with P+R, fund the 2nd division more than the measly 100k the teams get at present. By all means keep the standards (grounds etc) i can guarantee all the bitterness will go and it will bring some intensity to all the games. Ryan Mcgoldrick stated the other week the tension in the Wakey Cas decider the other year was unreal, but surely that is the type of situation the players need if we are ever going to match the Aussies. They play to that level every week, there are now too many games with nothing at stake and all the players just going through the motions. Plus 2 divisions would give the RFL plenty more scope to bring in teams from expansion areas as well as keep all the so called heartland teams happy, it really is a no brainer

And thats why the clowns at Red Hall will not implement it , they dont have a functioning brain between them and are slowly killing the game

we now play to the tune of Sky,i dont like it,but thats the reality.



Dont see where im kidding myself,ive stated as such above.

I read it to be you saying RL was alone in this issue.

If that isnt the case then im sorry.

The RFL has just said (john Ledger) that the weakest club in super league will be demoted from the division IF all the clubs meet the criteria, how do you define weakest when all the clubs meet criteria....