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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I disagree with KPP. He’s deserved the criticism that has come his way and tonight only highlights why. Where has that hunger and aggression been for the last two years? He was absolutely outstanding and long may it continue. I thought it was noticeable that Peet said his time off had got him excited about the game again. That seemed a back handed compliment, as though he was saying his motivation levels maybe haven’t been quite where they should be previously. What he has done tonight is get me excited that he can end his spell here on a real high and that would be pleasing. Nobody doubts his talent for me.'"
I genuinely don’t think the positional changes have helped but you are right in saying he has deserved some criticism but unlike others you are able to give praise when it’s deserved.
I think he looked like a player who had been given a simple job to do tonight and I thought he executed that well.
Excited to see him develop here and in the NRL.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"I genuinely don’t think the positional changes have helped but you are right in saying he has deserved some criticism but unlike others you are able to give praise when it’s deserved.
I think he looked like a player who had been given a simple job to do tonight and I thought he executed that well.
Excited to see him develop here and in the NRL.'"
I hope he kills it over there. He’s clearly getting ready physically for it. He looked like he’d banged some muscle on during his spell on the sidelines. It’s all on attitude with him and when it’s like that tonight, he excites you and you see a glimpse of the player he should become. A trip to Wembley before he leaves would be nice to see. He can play a huge part in helping that come to fruition on tonight’s form.
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| My only fly in the ointment is shoerrocks, grafter but no go forward at all i think when all the pack is fit, he definitely misses out on the 17
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"I wouldn't if I was you.
Him and Marc Reber were sold as the next Edwards and Gregory. They weren't even the next Hale and Pace (somethirn neither of them had)'"
To be fair those 2 did strike fear into coaches when they got the ball,well mainly their own coach admittedly
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| KPP has clearly put some serious weight on in the last few months and was hitting harder than I think he ever has last night. He’s probably more confident now to play in that style, now he’s conditioned to do it.
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"I wouldn't if I was you.
Him and Marc Reber were sold as the next Edwards and Gregory. They weren't even the next Hale and Pace (somethirn neither of them had)'"
They had a bit more class , more Hinge&Bracket
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| KPP was everything Peet promised and more, I thought he was overhyping how much good the rest had done for KPP, he looked a lot bigger. He was very physical. It was funny watching the worst Wigan team in years with only two decent players out muscling the Wire pack.
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| Quote Cbr1000rr="Cbr1000rr"My only fly in the ointment is shoerrocks, grafter but no go forward at all i think when all the pack is fit, he definitely misses out on the 17'"
I think there is value in having him as your last sub. He can cover O’Neill for 15-20 mins if needed, spell Smithies or one of the second rowers and cover injuries in the halves. I agree he shouldn’t be starting games though, not when we have everyone fit.
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| Unfortunately I couldn’t get to the game last night but really pleased with the result.
How did Nsemba and Hill go?
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"He’s obviously not hugely quick Smithies but he’s playing great at the minute. He is really developing his link play in the middle and he’s added more punch to his running game. If he had an ex teammate banging his drum in the media, I reckon he’d be getting rave reviews across the board but not all players are as lucky.'"
Lots of passing last night as well linking with other forwards and our halves.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Unfortunately I couldn’t get to the game last night but really pleased with the result.
How did Nsemba and Hill go?'"
They were hardly on, might have got 10mins each in the second half, bench could be a bit of a concern next week, it's gutting having Havard missing
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| Thought Smith was excellent last night he ran the show and his heads up play for Marshall's try was brilliant. KPP was different player - looked strong and effective - shame it has come late in his Wigan career as he could be a real handful playing like that. O'Neill was very good too. Possibly Wardle's best game for us
Field looked a bit sharper as well - perhaps he is now getting over the injury he had.
Second half we looked a lot more joined up - the attack looked a bit more slick - still work to do but improving.
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| Quote Cbr1000rr="Cbr1000rr"My only fly in the ointment is shoerrocks, grafter but no go forward at all i think when all the pack is fit, he definitely misses out on the 17'"
I still think we keep hold of him. He does a job and is only still 23. I think he is and will be a great utility player going forward. All this experience will do him well.
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| Quote apollosghost="apollosghost"They were hardly on, might have got 10mins each in the second half, bench could be a bit of a concern next week, it's gutting having Havard missing'"
Thank you for the feedback.
Peet does seem to protect his young players. Next week it will be a full on 80 minutes so the youngsters may have to play more than cameo roles.
I agree that Havard will be a major miss but hopefully we can lift our intensity to overcome a highly motivated Rovers team.
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| Quote WWste="WWste"I still think we keep hold of him. He does a job and is only still 23. I think he is and will be a great utility player going forward. All this experience will do him well.'"
12m from 6 carries just isn’t good enough for a second rower.
I get his utility value but he’s average at best in any position.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Unfortunately I couldn’t get to the game last night but really pleased with the result.
How did Nsemba and Hill go?'"
Limited minutes for both but they got stuck in when they were on. No real stand out moments but both are clearly going to be good players for us.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"12m from 6 carries just isn’t good enough for a second rower.
I get his utility value but he’s average at best in any position.'"
Pretty much. His future here will all depend on his wage demands and what he wants from his career. He’s never going to be a first choice player in any position IMO but the fact he can do a decent job in loads of positions makes him a worthwhile squad player IMO ‘if’ it comes at a low cost.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Limited minutes for both but they got stuck in when they were on. No real stand out moments but both are clearly going to be good players for us.'"
Thank you NK.
I’ve been impressed with Hill’s aggression and making himself available to carry the ball. He’s from good stock and as his confidence grows he will get even better.
Nsemba is coming along quite nicely. I thought he had an excellent game at Wakey and if he continues on this upward trend i think that we have a potential top class forward.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I think there is value in having him as your last sub. He can cover O’Neill for 15-20 mins if needed, spell Smithies or one of the second rowers and cover injuries in the halves. I agree he shouldn’t be starting games though, not when we have everyone fit.'"
I don't think he will, and there's every chance he doesn't make the 17 when/if Isa is back
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| Not seen it back on TV yet but some initial thoughts from the game.
The bench was FAR more effective minus Singleton and Cust. Nothing against either player but you need your bench players to add something when they come on as demonstrated last night. Neither of those two do at the moment, although that's a bit unfair on Cust who is just not different enough rather than anything else. Bench hooker is just not the right role for him.
Mago was excellent again. Exactly as I said post Wakefield but this time he wasn't plowing a lone furrow as KPP brought plenty go forward from the bench as well. If he brought this week in, week out he would be probably be looking at a new contract.
Byrne. Where to start with Byrne? He is massively disappointing at times and not because I don't think he is good enough but for exactly the opposite reason! I get that he's relatively young for a prop but so are Havard and Hill. It seems to be between his ears that is lacking as he just runs so hot and cold...often within the same game! His early stint was awful. When he came back on at the end he ran with purpose and vigour and skittled players. I suppose it's a case of "will the real Liam Byrne please stand up!". He's in danger of being left behind. Someone also needs to get to grips with his running style. He's far too upright in contact which results in the ludicrous push backs like we saw last night. That said, Byrne/Ellis is not a good starting combination in my opinion. Simply not enough go forward. Havard is a big miss.
Bevan made incremental gains at 6 again but is clearly still not the finished article. Moving in the right direction though and seemed far more willing to test the defence with his jinking runs. I'm still of the opinion that we aren't seeing the best of him from there though and I would like to see us work on the switch post CCSF.
Faz was way off last night. Maybe it's time to start spelling him a bit?
Good performance in the 2nd half after a first where we were a bit lax in defence and never quite got going. Most of all a much needed win before all eyes turn to Sunday.
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| Singleton looks ready for the knackers yard and that was just from watching in the warm up. When they all do a sprint from our line, to half way, at the end of the warm up, he was dead last and by a big margin. He looked like he’d won a competition to join in with the warm up.
Byrne needs a rocket up his backside this season. He’s lucky that we’re so short in the position because there has been some weeks I’d have liked to see him lose his spot to wake him up a bit. I really like the lad but his form is well off his best.
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| Quote apollosghost="apollosghost"Dodgy opening quarter with Clark running the show for Wire but unlike last week never looked in trouble once we got our noses in front, onto the semi we go'"
Wire put a tremendous amount of effort into the first 40 minutes. Their line speed was extremely effective however, when those old legs tired there was only one winner.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Singleton looks ready for the knackers yard and that was just from watching in the warm up. When they all do a sprint from our line, to half way, at the end of the warm up, he was dead last and by a big margin. He looked like he’d won a competition to join in with the warm up.
Byrne needs a rocket up his backside this season. He’s lucky that we’re so short in the position because there has been some weeks I’d have liked to see him lose his spot to wake him up a bit. I really like the lad but his form is well off his best.'"
The last bit about Singleton had me laughing! I think his time here should be done barring an injury crisis.
Byrne is frustrating as hell. You can see that when his mind is in the right place he has something to offer but all too often he seems to be coasting. Not only in terms of any given match but with regards to improving as a player. Compare him to Havard and how he's becoming one of the best in the league.
I remember Wane saying he'd like to get his hands on him as there was room for big improvement there. Well, as far as I can see, there still is!
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| I think Byrne needs his place to be threatened. He’s not had it for a good while now.
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