Which is one of the main reasons I think that we're hesitating to make the fistful of signings that some folk are calling for.

Both up end of next season aren't they? In any case, it'd be worth paying them off and bring through the kids we are already paying.

End of next season, what do we do till then?

We'll do what we did with Kevin Brown. Make them play too many games too early, expect way too much of them and boo them until they have no confidence left and ship them off to Huddersfield.



Next question...

What about bringing them through steadily at a pace that suits the club, the players and doesn't push them too early whilst results at the club don't get affected too much?????



Oh Sorry, coach can't do that, he would face calls of the sack!

He deserves some first team rugby either with Wigan or the Championship side, he's been a stand out performer for Wigan reserves all throughout the season. I can't believe we didn't take him on loan when we had the chance!



He's a very good player and seems to have a good attidute so I'm sure if not with Wigan he'll succeed in the game but I think it would be a mistake if Wigan were to let him go on a contract elsewhere.

One season wouldn't harm him in the reserves. In fact I'd go so far as to say, wean him in 1 - 5 games next season and 5 - 15 the one after. In which case we'd still have space for Fielden and Feka.



Alternatively, pay off both of those.

Paying them off doesn't free up room to make a new signing or improve the wages of a young player to first team standard. Paying a player off counts on the salary cap.

Ben Davies to Widnes? Any truth behind this that nayone can shed some light on, can't see it happening myself.

Could definitely see it being on loan

Loan Davies out for a year, hopefully. It would make a mockery of everything IL spouted last night. We are supposed to bringing through young talent, yet we could be thinking of letting young players like Flannagan and Davies go.

I asked IL last night at the FF about loaning players out and how it would work under the new dual registration rules. How many could you loan out was there a time period etc.

IL said the restrictions are on the recipient club in that they can only have four loan players and max of three from any one club.

What IL did say was that under the new dual reg rules a player could play one week for Wigan, his home club, then the next week for his loan club.

There would not be a 28 day period as now where the loaned player cannot return to his home club. He explained that's why Liam Farrell hadn't been loaned out due to the 28 day rule.

If Ben Davies is going to Widnes then it will be under the new rules, which are now or soon to be in force.

In view of IL's emphatic attitude that it's Wigan produced players which our future is to be based upon I can't see Davies going on a permanent deal to Widnes.

A loan deal there will do him a lot of good and be in Wigan's interest long term.