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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"Fair play to Warrington.
Good luck to them.
Time will tell whether he is worth that amount, but great to see that amount of money being invested in a player.'" Spot on mate, only time will tell. |
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| Quote Ray Chicken="Ray Chicken"Yes because it certainly doesn't sound like.. a 7 page thread...'"
You explain why wigan fans should be having nightmares because warrington are signing Myler ?? |
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| Quote wigan_knight="wigan_knight"You explain why wigan fans should be having nightmares because warrington are signing Myler ??'"
Posting a 7 page thread on the topic. |
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| Quote Ray Chicken="Ray Chicken"Posting a 7 page thread on the topic.'"
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As Tony Smith always say, the media always blow things out of proportion. Chances are, it is nowhere near 300k. But, if it is then why are we arguing? We have the money to spend with plenty to spend. We are set to lose 3 high players at the end of the season, which will free space on the cap.
Whether he is worth all of this "300k", only time will tell. But, Tony Smith has obviously had his eye on him for some time and obviously genuinely thinks that Myler will be that half back that we need in the squad with Monas moving to 9.
He may well be the worst signing in our history, but a full pre-season with Smith and our coaching staff could make him one helluva player come the 2010 season. But eh who knows.
In Smith We Trust.
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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"If you cannot see the difference between spending big money on Fielden and spending big money on Myler you are just plain stupid.'"
You still dont get it do you?
It's not the clubs money, its Simon Morans. He can spend it how he sees fit if he wants to
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"You don't half know how to re-write RL history. I think you will find Widnes and Leeds were hardly averse to splashing the cash as you put it and had varying degrees of success when they did. Leeds failing spectacularly first singing up Hull's star players like Crooks and Schofield and then going after some of Wigan's.
Can’t disagree there with you Widnes had success compared to youselves, but didn’t have an endless pot of funds like Wigan, the rest is history with Widnes. Leeds on the other hand couldn’t put it together.
The difference was Wigan were innovative off-field not just in terms of going full time (which only happened in 1991/92 season by the way) but by employing specialist sprint coaches and so on. We also produced many of our own players.
You may have well only employed specialist coaches in 91 but you were already half way through your successful decade at that point. I was at Central Park in 87 when you defeated Manly and had a team full of Brits but they weren’t all home grown. Players like Joe Lydon, Andy Greg I suppose Wigan born but you still paid top dollar for them
It is however much easier for people like you to ignore all those facts and say basically we bought success. Leeds proved you need more than money to have success. Whether there is that sort of off-field organisation Wigan had back then currently at our club now I have my doubts given the way some players look and play. I remember signing McInty from Wire and seeing him improve here which was not a coincidence. Now the opposite seems to be the case when players leave.
The lure of the cash took a few of the Wire players move over to Wigan, either already GB internationals or on the verge of and within a short period they were selected for GB. I am not saying they were any better for Wigan just that they had a more balanced/better team around them. Success breads success and Wigan could afford the pick of the best off field coaches and backroom staff. You say the opposite is happening, well IMO that is a fault of your previous management team expecting success you have let numerous talented youngsters go because you wanted the big names in.
If I was to ask any Wiganer who remembers that decade there were many big name Aussies and Kiwis/All Blacks who played and they wouldn’t come cheap. In the modern game with the salary cap that would not be possible
So we can all spend the same money up to the limit of the cap but just like Leeds spent at least as much as Wigan if not more that won't mean the trophies are equally shared out hence the recent dominance of Leeds and Saints.
I know Wire can't break a live cap just as Wigan can't and there may have been loopholes exploited by the likes of Wire and Saints but if there were, you should be in favour of them being closed as you seem so fond of a level playing field.
Touchy one this because the Wire have never been guilty of breaking the cap unlike yourselves and others and these rumoured loopholes maybe you could explain more
As to Wigan nearly ruining the game, don't be so stupid. We dominated the cup for 8 years not the league, premiership and regal trophy.
So include was it 5 successive championships? I think it is true to say you dominated the decade
I think that is a subject we will have to agree to disagree on as you are seeing it as a Wiganer being happy with the success for all those years, many outside of Wigan would view it differently and as I said in my earlier post we were playing a side part in your show. Only the turn of Super League did things start to change.
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"Keep making it up, it's entertaining to say the least
It's funny you chose to mention Andy Gregory - who ofc, you got from Widnes for payment in Jelly Babies.Continue to ignore spending millions on ground improvements that killed ground capacity and overran massively as well.
It's an interesting fantasy world you live in.'"
One thinks you need to check the record books. The Wire signed Andy Greg on the eve of the Challenge Cup deadline and paid a world record fee at that time.
A year or two later I wonder who splashed the cash out for his services 
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| Quote Orrell Lad="Orrell Lad"Some green eyes here. If IL had announced we'd signed Myler for 300k out of his own pocket I doubt anyone would be calling it bad business.
Maybe we should be looking at our own lame recruitment before casting a critical eye on others...'"
Exactly.
Atkins & Myler would improve our team, are English and I struggle to understand a) how Warrington can afford more top players and b) why once again we dont seem to even have an interest. |
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| Quote AJ="AJ"Exactly.
Atkins & Myler would improve our team, are English and I struggle to understand a) how Warrington can afford more top players and b) why once again we dont seem to even have an interest.'" Very simple. So far this year we have released Gleeson and Reardon. Mathers is in, as is Carney (who probably won't be with us next year).
I would think we have some money free from Gleeson's salary.
Add to this the fact that we could easily release the likes of Johnson and Rauhihi, and there is free income. |
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Very simple. So far this year we have released Gleeson and Reardon. Mathers is in, as is Carney (who probably won't be with us next year).
I would think we have some money free from Gleeson's salary.
Add to this the fact that we could easily release the likes of Johnson and Rauhihi, and there is free income.'"
I can absolutely see where the money is coming from this year, how you managed to get under it with the squad you had at the start of the season is another thing, but we don't know the ins and outs etc etc.
I still think we cannot be judged as a squad until we get Fielden et al off the wages they are on. Fieldens wage is that of a World Class player, our squad would look 10x better if Fielden was someone like Peacock, who wouldn't be on anymore money.
The pack looks weak, and the squad looks weak, because Fielden is weak but taking up a massive wage. There are others as well, but i don't think anywhere near as many as when Mo was about. |
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| Quote inside_man="inside_man"I can absolutely see where the money is coming from this year, how you managed to get under it with the squad you had at the start of the season is another thing, but we don't know the ins and outs etc etc.
I still think we cannot be judged as a squad until we get Fielden et al off the wages they are on. Fieldens wage is that of a World Class player, our squad would look 10x better if Fielden was someone like Peacock, who wouldn't be on anymore money.
The pack looks weak, and the squad looks weak, because Fielden is weak but taking up a massive wage. There are others as well, but i don't think anywhere near as many as when Mo was about.'"
IL is living off the Fielden wage if you know what i mean. No big changes once hes gone THEN questions needs to be ask about IL |
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