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| This whole stadium share thing is not good for either sports team, I love both clubs and I will for the rest of my life and it's such a shame this share handover has not been sorted out yet. Either something has gone on that we dont know about or certain people are causing pointless delays. I just want it sorting out sooner rather than later if not no doubt both football and Rugby fans will start falling out and a divide will start again which is just stupid. We both play at a fantastic sporting venue, we are Huddersfield so let's sort this out and see both teams succeed in the near future.
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| Let's see who we're against here. We're against brain-dead Town fans, who say things like:
'The man is morally bankrupt and for someone who purports to have the best interests of sport in the town at heart'
'It is my recollection that the Giants brought very little to the "party,"'
'Sorry Joe, I know why the Giants fan part of you loves the guy, but think you're clutching at some pretty thin straws there to try and defend him from a Town fans perspective.
i never really understood why the Giants were ever awarded 20% at all, baring in mind they contributed nothing.'
'Forgive my inevitable ignorance but if we achieved significant success (ie; full houses in the Premier) then the natural move would be for the rugby team to play elsewhere!'
They're planning a large scale protest against the 'Villain' Davy. If we can make a 'Well Done Wire' sign, surely we can show a little thanks for the fantastic chairman we have when everyone seems to be against him!
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| I dont claim to know about the share issue but can someone confirm if i am right or wrong here.........Sir Ken bought Town's shares in the stadium for £2 when he saved their club and now they are worth obviously a lot more money are Town expecting Ken to just hand them back to them ?
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| Quote GIANT DAZ="GIANT DAZ"I dont claim to know about the share issue but can someone confirm if i am right or wrong here.........Sir Ken bought Town's shares in the stadium for £2 when he saved their club and now they are worth obviously a lot more money are Town expecting Ken to just hand them back to them ?'"
Hand them back for £2, yes. Davy has (quite rightly) said that, although the 40:40:20 deal was set up in the first place, the Giants bring more to the table now than 10 years ago, so deserve a higher % I believe.
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| but if Ken owns the shares....legally... why should he give them back?
if they want them get their wonderful chairman to buy them at full price from Ken !
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| Quote GIANT DAZ="GIANT DAZ"but if Ken owns the shares....legally... why should he give them back?
if they want them get their wonderful chairman to buy them at full price from Ken !'"
As town fans, they are superior to Rugby, so deserve 'their' shares back. If Hoyle's so great, he should buy them back as you say, at full price.
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| Quote Conorgiantsfan="Conorgiantsfan"Hand them back for £2, yes. Davy has (quite rightly) said that, although the 40:40:20 deal was set up in the first place, the Giants bring more to the table now than 10 years ago, so deserve a higher % I believe.'"
I would presume the same Town fans would be willing to let the club sell Jordan Rhodes for the same price they payed for him? The club would be morally bankrupt and they themselves stupendous hypocrites if they don't.
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| Quote Mad_Jack_Mcmad="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"I would presume the same Town fans would be willing to let the club sell Jordan Rhodes for the same price they payed for him? The club would be morally bankrupt and they themselves stupendous hypocrites if they don't.'"
Oh no, that's 'totally different'
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| Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who slings mud at Ken Davy is an idiot who has absolutely no idea what that man has done for Huddersfield as a town. It could very easily be argued that we would have neither an RL nor a soccer team without him.
These individuals need to get a grip and show some respect for a man who has consistently put his money where his mouth is and salvaged two virtually lost causes at no inconsiderable cost to himself.
Slagging off Sir Ken is well out of order.
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| Quote fartownfan="fartownfan"Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who slings mud at Ken Davy is an idiot who has absolutely no idea what that man has done for Huddersfield as a town. It could very easily be argued that we would have neither an RL nor a soccer team without him.
These individuals need to get a grip and show some respect for a man who has consistently put his money where his mouth is and salvaged two virtually lost causes at no inconsiderable cost to himself.
Slagging off Sir Ken is well out of order.'"

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| any protest against ken davy by town fans and giants fans would have to come out in force and support him...like posted previously is we can make a banner for warrington why not ken?!
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| Whilst commenting on this thread and giving your views I presume you are all taking into account the fact that 'Sir' Ken has also removed the Giant's 20% share of the ground and transferred it to his own company HSP. You're not all that naive are you?
I mean HTFC are now currently at the point of KD (thankfully) not being in control of the club so the current chairman is trying to secure the shares that belong to the football club. He's not trying to get control of them for himself but reattach them to the club so that going forward in the future we are a football club with a 40% stake in the ground which is a much more viable entity to invest in (or rescue for that matter). What happens when he is no longer in control of your rugby club? Do you just accept that going forward when Davy & associates are in no way associated with the Giants that you will have lost your 20% stake of the ground along with that? Do you think that's right?
Your rugby club was founded in 1864, ours in 1908. We have been round long before and hopefully will prosper long after Ken Davy has been and gone. Our ground was built with a landmark partnership so that the two main clubs of Huddersfield could have a great stadium to play in and both benefit from having shares in it. We helped fund the thing. It was built FOR Huddersfield Town and Huddersfield Giants, no one person, no one business that's how it should stay.
This isn't about business or legality or denying that Ken saved our club from the brink of collapse (however reluctantly or with what motives) this is about morals and ethics. That ground was built for our clubs, and for our clubs to have a share in so that we could both prosper from it. These are sports clubs that our grandfathers watched and hopefully grandchildren will watch. Our 40% share which is rightfully ours should be returned so that we can benefit from the revenue it produces. We pay 75% of the rent for it!
And to the person saying Davy has selflessy thrown his money at us at 'no inconsiderable cost to himself' should note the fact part of the deal is Davy receiving £3m + interest back for his investments into HTFC - agreed by Hoyle. On top of the £2 he charged himself for our 40 shares which he did so secretly without informing any of the fans. Which he then denied for a long time until facts from places like Companies House meant he had to acknowledge he'd done so - then spinning some yarn about it protecting us.
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