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| Quote Milly="Milly"Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I can remember the cries of 'we want Cullen' years before 'we want Cullen out'.
We want a local coach who will show pride in the shirt, then we want a proven Aussie coach (cos any Aussie will be better).
We want the big name players but we don't want anymore foreign journeymen.
It's worth a big name on big wages - until he doesn't settle and then he's just here for the money.
We want the local kids to play and show some pride and passion, but Penny, Riley, Blythe etc aren't big enough/ fast enough/ skilled enough to play superleague.
Briers is finished/ over/ a bad influence until we lose then we need him/ he is Warrington.
The board can't win because we are never satisfied. They give us what we want but get crucified when it doesn't work. As I said, hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wonder if, in hindsight, the board wish they'd never got involved in the first place.'"
 Couldn't put it better myself! If fans think things will change over night now Tony Smith is in charge then they're wrong. It is clear there has/are problems deep down at our club and but I believe TS has already shown that he isn't going to take anyone under performing and slowly we will see the results. Fans need to give the players time and get behind the team... and booing is NOT going to help matters, only destroy the confidence that TS is trying to give the players! |
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I think it puts into perspective what Cullen was actually achieving. The players ultimately let him down.
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Yep I agree . Cullen did well ..
I think TS think our underachivement is down to our inconsistency and our inconsistency is down to our defence. It looks like the big time beer monsters are on there way out. We will get there.
Its gonna be a long season though
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| Quote mark_m="mark_m"I think it puts into perspective what Cullen was actually achieving. The players ultimately let him down.'" Was going to make a similar point. Under Cullen we were never this bad.
I am shocked by how far backwards we have gone.
Part of me feels anger towards Lowes, as it was under him that the team went so far backwards, but it couldn't possibly go that wrong due to the manager in such a short space of time, could it? |
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Was going to make a similar point. Under Cullen we were never this bad.
I am shocked by how far backwards we have gone.
Part of me feels anger towards Lowes, as it was under him that the team went so far backwards, but it couldn't possibly go that wrong due to the manager in such a short space of time, could it?'"
I'd feel much happier if he was on his way too now to be honest. A legacy from the past we are trying to recover from. |
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"I'd feel much happier if he was on his way too now to be honest. A legacy from the past we are trying to recover from.'" Do you really think one pre-season with the wrong man in charge can have such a negative effect on a team? I keep wondering whether my anger is misplaced? |
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Do you really think one pre-season with the wrong man in charge can have such a negative effect on a team? I keep wondering whether my anger is misplaced?'"
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| Quote getdownmonkeyman="getdownmonkeyman"I think your pre-season dictates how your whole season goes.'" Yeah, that's my thought too, watching them yesterday it was just shocking how that team looked a shadow of it's previous attack minded self. |
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| Quote Dave T="Dave T"Do you really think one pre-season with the wrong man in charge can have such a negative effect on a team? I keep wondering whether my anger is misplaced?'"
No. The only coach we need to look at when trying to pinpoint fault was the one who was in position for 6 years, not one who had just 14 games. People have short memories. |
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"I'd feel much happier if he was on his way too now to be honest. A legacy from the past we are trying to recover from.'"
Agreed. Lowes has to be held accountable. |
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"No. The only coach we need to look at when trying to pinpoint fault was the one who was in position for 6 years, not one who had just 14 games. People have short memories.'" But this team is playing nothing like any of Cullen's teams, this is why I'm not convinced by that.
We have had many debates about Cullen, and there was clearly too much of an emphasis on attack for us to win anything, but this team looks nothing like anything Cullen did with them. |
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Couldn't put it better myself! If fans think things will change over night now Tony Smith is in charge then they're wrong. It is clear there has/are problems deep down at our club and but I believe TS has already shown that he isn't going to take anyone under performing and slowly we will see the results. Fans need to give the players time and get behind the team... and booing is NOT going to help matters, only destroy the confidence that TS is trying to give the players!
