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| Hello, I'm french, so my english isn't great...
I have seen them in the training, I spoke with Walters and I could see this team! (make sense?  )
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| Big centres!
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| Quote highwire="highwire"I know there are a lot of Penny fans out here but I wouldn't play him until April / May. He needs fast tracks not slugfests where he will not get a sniff of the ball. You need your wingers to run from DH on tackles 1 and 2 in games at this time of year and he is terrible at this. It his not just his defence, his all round game is poor. Taylor welch would be a better prospect at the moment
To be honest I thought his nerve had gone on Friday night, he was fumbling around with pretty simple kicks. When he picked up the ball to return the kick he was getting dragged back and his bottle went when trying to tidy up a saints knock on near our own line with Wilkin ready to smash him as soon as he picked it up.
Whatever confidence he did have will have gone after Friday night.
I think he would benefit more from a loan spell at Widnes / Leigh rather than going back to the reserves.
Harsh but see you in April Kev.'"
A good point made by highwire. It's not just his defence that I question. He did seem shaky catching easy balls against Saints and he offers virtually nothing running the ball from dummy half which is an essential skill for a winger in the first few tackles of each set.
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| Think Jimmy will use Penny more of a back up player this season, if Gleeson was fit on Friday i dont think Penny would have played, think Jimmy, apart from Reardon sees the 17 he picks for Saturdays game as his first choice.
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| Quote CaseyMcGuireFan="CaseyMcGuireFan"Hello, I'm french, so my english isn't great...

I have seen them in the training, I spoke with Walters and I could see this team! (make sense?
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1-Greenshields
2-Bell
3-Carlaw
4-Fakir
5-Pelo
6-Mogg
7-Bosc
8-Ferriol
9-Mounis
10-Guisset
11-Elima
12-Gossard
13-Croker'"
I predict a riot.
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| Quote Roger Whittakers Penis="Roger Whittakers Penis"I thought everyone was on there final warning no?
Thats bang out of order after everything thats gone on today.
There should be zero tolerance to that kind of abuse.'"
i am a little concerned about a word in your username, surely this may offend any lesbians on the board
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| People are assuming that Penny has been dropped, but I honestly think he wouldn't have played vs Saints if Gleeson had been fit.
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| Penny is the scapegoat, its not him that is leaving the the gaps is it Lee??
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| Quote The All New Chester Wire="The All New Chester Wire"Big centres!'"
ridiculous scary centres, though i'd like to think that fakir is a target for gleeson's footwork.
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| Who was it on here who used to call it 'Escape Goat' ?
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| Quote i hate pies="i hate pies"i think its right that penny is dropped. as much as i want him to succeed the only time he will do anything is if he has open space ahead of him. its been said before, but he does concede more tries than he scores.
penny cant defend well enough. i think with Johnson there kings defence will improve.
if i were king, i would feel playing with penny that you would have to defend the winger as well as the centre, but if johno goes there, there will be no doubt in my mind that he would be strong defensively, so king can concentrate on his own centre.'"
Agreed, after all the tripe is cut away, there is only one question that needs to be asked imo, that is "would we feel more comfortable with Johnson defending or Penny? Unfortunately for Kev i think the answer would be Johnson. If you look at where Kev stands in the defensive line he is not close enough to his centre, this disrupts the sliding defence on the left, therefore when King and the rest of the team slide to the left as the ball is put through the oppositions hands Kev has to move right in order to close the gap and get into the correct defensive position, this automatically puts him on the back foot, then he slides left with the rest of the team but it's too late by then.
Penny needs to be treated very carefully if he is to fulfil his potential. I think he needs 1st team rugby at the Co-Op Championship level to learn his trade. This will give him experience he so needs and take the pressure off him a bit.
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| My position on Penny is that he has got a lot of potential that at the moment isn't coming through at super league level. As somebody in this thread suggested, and myself elsewhere I think it could be a good idea to send him on loan to a strong team in nl1 where he could learn the game at a lower level. That said he has been made a scapegoat from last week.
Looking at the squad list and the way its listed I'd be worried at our left side with King centre and Johnson on the wing, no pace what so ever and I also don't want to see Bridge there as I think he is wasted on the wing.
Riley
Hicks
Gleeson(hopefully)
Bridge
King
Briers
Monaghan.
Thats what I'd go with although I'd prefer to see Bridge covering the halfs. Maybe Reardon to come in left wing when fit?
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| Quote JWP="JWP"Who was it on here who used to call it 'Escape Goat' ?'"
one of the genuine legends of the (recently lamented) word of the week running gag.
the picture of the goat on the jetski isn't on google any more, as far as i can see.
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| Penny or Johnson on the wing isn't exactly an embarrassment of riches is it?
one isn't fast, one isn't a SL std rugby player.
King might have been woeful so far - 25 games.
But he must be better than he looks.
A SOO hat-trick can't be wrong can it?
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