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| When did Riley Dean suddenly become a bad player? Every time I've seen him in the first team he's looked pretty decent and was nothing short of outstanding in the win v Huddersfield. Obviously he put in one poor kick against Wigan(despite getting us back in the game with an excellent solo try)and that was enough for Powell to publicly throw him under the bus.
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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"When did Riley Dean suddenly become a bad player? Every time I've seen him in the first team he's looked pretty decent and was nothing short of outstanding in the win v Huddersfield. Obviously he put in one poor kick against Wigan(despite getting us back in the game with an excellent solo try)and that was enough for Powell to publicly throw him under the bus.'"
I don't think anyone is suggesting he's a bad player. Just that he's not produced much that makes you suddenly think you've seen the second coming of Briers, John Woods, or any top half back you can care to remember.
Probably comes down to what I hinted at last week and that's that us fans can be too keen sometimes to build up youngsters who, in reality, have produced very little to warrant all the expectation of them.
Also, and I think it's a classic modern day social media habit where a player has to be either a bad player or a top player, when, in reality again, the vast majority hover somewhere between mediocre/average and quite good - I suspect Dean is floating somewhere in that large pool of players.
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| Honestly, I would rather have my mum at half back, and she’s just turned 87!!!
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| We need Williams at 6, and a 7 with a top kicking game.
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| Hayes too young and Dean not sure, Clifford sounded good but looks dead in the water, hey we have another big problem centres, who’s 3and4 next year !!
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| Looks like Steph and matautia no no no no no no!!!!!!!
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"I don't think anyone is suggesting he's a bad player. Just that he's not produced much that makes you suddenly think you've seen the second coming of Briers, John Woods, or any top half back you can care to remember.
Probably comes down to what I hinted at last week and that's that us fans can be too keen sometimes to build up youngsters who, in reality, have produced very little to warrant all the expectation of them.
Also, and I think it's a classic modern day social media habit where a player has to be either a bad player or a top player, when, in reality again, the vast majority hover somewhere between mediocre/average and quite good - I suspect Dean is floating somewhere in that large pool of players.'"
You get young players coming through at Saints/Wigan/Leeds, and within a few games you can see something special there. There's a maturity in their play, an ability to take charge of the game and early on impose themselves on their SL peers.
When young players come through at Wire, before they have ever really performed in SL you get loads of hype and demands that we build the future around them. Then you get a rearguard of fans who cling to this narrative and just explain away the lack of performance. "He just needs more time.....Wigan or Saints would persevere with him.....the coach has messed him about.....the coach hates him" then inevitably they end up in the Championship with everyone saying they could have been a great but our rubbish coaching staff didn't develop them.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"The problem is, the people who say go with Dean or Hayes, as they need to be given a chance, will be the same people who will want Powell gone after the 6 game trial period he's supposedly been set.
I'm not saying they shouldn't have a fair chance, but having a novice half back, at the time his job is supposedly on the line, just seems like career suicide for Powell.'"
They wouldn't be novices if Powell grew a pair and played one of em on a regular basis instead of chopping and changing
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| As we are unfortunately aware, there are games when Gigot looks world class.
Even at Catalans those games were few and far between. Even more so now. A huge no from me.
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| There are a lot more games where he's a sulking petulant terrible influence
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| Quote sir adrian morley="sir adrian morley"They wouldn't be novices if Powell grew a pair and played one of em on a regular basis instead of chopping and changing'"
Or shoehorning Ratchford and Matautia into the halves instead.
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