simply f**k off your s**t

Agreed, we (Cas) were in the same position last year and have seen great improvements this year. Patience, bide your time, it will come.

As far as I can see we only have White, Talau and Wilshere injured or awol who would get in the first team out of the 28 man squad. I also recall quite a few people saying before the season 'the back line looks a bit weak, might struggle if we get a few injuries to any back line regulars'

Agreed.



People giving the 3 year licence as an excuse to the dros we're turning in week in week out is also p1ssing me right off!!!

There is so many reasons that three year argument is utter nonsense. People could accept a tough year if they felt progress was being made but as it stands we have won one game against a team in their first Super League match and have since not been in a game for longer than half an hour. Talk of 3 years indicates progression but we are flat lining fast and any sane person knows it is only gonna get worse. Anyone want to suggest when we will next win a game?

A major difference with Cas and us is that last season they played their younger players in their correct positions ie. Westerman at 13 not in the centres, Shenton at centre etc etc. I'm also quite sure that they didn't, and most probably wouldn't even dream of, play a talented half back on the wing...we've played a dull, unattractive and completely regressive brand of rugby for almost the past 3 years (2nd half of the play-off season, relegation season, last season and almost a quarter of this season)...this is all in a time when the British game has progressed massively (as a spectator sport at least) and fast, exciting rugby is the order of the day - we look to be single-handedly trying to get it back to the dark ages of 5 drives and a kick, only we usually do 5 sh[ii[/it drives and a sh[ii[/it kick - that's if we manage to get through the 5 sh[ii[/it drives in the first place to get to the sh[ii[/it kick!!



And as per Walshovskis question - I personally have absolutely no idea when we'll win our next game, I honestly can't see us beating anyone in SL unless there is massive massive improvement across the board.

I seriously doubt we'll win another game imo.

i have more chance of winning the Euro millions than salford winning another game, that includes all games played in the 3 years we have left at this level, then when we are back in the national league we might win a few there.

Some of the posters on here will be happy with that as next year they'll be claiming we're only two years into a three year licence and we have just put a new squad together, let the second rate aussies get used to the pace of SL and settle in and get off the old and decrepit useless senior players back and get behind the manager, he once won a SL medal with St. Helens......................Repeat one year later cos they'll still be wearing those rose tinted spectacles as their belief in their beloved Salford knows no bounds.



Get a grip will you, action is required NOW, STOP molly coddling them you fools and see it for what it is.

As I say we all cannot be wrong? I took a new potential fans on friday who had never been to a rugby game, he was able to pin point Salford's weaknesses & he does not understand the game, fitness was one point he made, I ended up taking him back into the pub after the game & told him it is normally not this bad! I tell fibs as well.

Red Dave



We applaud you, your post is a measured assessment of the current situation, we do not expect to be winning the majority of games especially at St Helens and to an extent against a good Wakefield side but we should be competing!!!



Get the basics right, close the kicker down, improve our own in-play kicks, install a proper full back ( Fitzy has our utmost respect but he is not and never will be a full back), use dummy runners, stop the off-loads, don't play people out of position even if this means playing youngsters, make every effort to get up and play the ball quickly. If the supporters see the team applying these basic requirements (every other team seems to do these things to us!) then they will give the team every backing, we have no automatic right to be a success and if we finish bottom due to the ability of other teams then so be it but we must compete!!

You wouldn't be in so much trouble if he just kept his head down and trained the team rather than cropping up on sky and other functions. Was at another tonight in Burtonwood at a q&a.