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| Quote Legends and Icons="Legends and Icons"thats why I put imo and not fact .'"
Generally speaking, "IMO" tends not to work as a defamation defence. It's customary to divulge the information that led to you forming that opinion.
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| Quote Legends and Icons="Legends and Icons"Back on topic .. Leeds, wigan, wire, are over the cap imo'" Can you give us some information on how much you think players are being paid and how this cap scam is being effected and what party is paying if it is not being properly run through the trading company's books (which are open to inspection at any time by the RFL)?
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| Quote bramleyrhino="bramleyrhino"Generally speaking, "IMO" tends not to work as a defamation defence. It's customary to divulge the information that led to you forming that opinion.'"
Mixture of guesswork and jealousy I assume.
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| IMO I agree based on lack of player movement and the ability of those clubs to stockpile top players. Only club in NRL that did that was Melbourne and look at what came to light there. It was only due to a whistle blower that the storms cheating was found despite rigorous procedures in the NRL so to suggest that the rfl would know is somewhat naive.
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"IMO I agree based on lack of player movement and the ability of those clubs to stockpile top players. Only club in NRL that did that was Melbourne and look at what came to light there. It was only due to a whistle blower that the storms cheating was found despite rigorous procedures in the NRL so to suggest that the rfl would know is somewhat naive.'"
So the Leeds CEO is lying when he says Leeds have space in the salary cap?
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| Quote Legends and Icons="Legends and Icons"thats why I put imo and not fact .'"
No defense whatsoever. We can assume automatically that what you write is your opinion, unless you're quoting someone else.
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"IMO I agree based on lack of player movement and the ability of those clubs to stockpile top players. Only club in NRL that did that was Melbourne and look at what came to light there. It was only due to a whistle blower that the storms cheating was found despite rigorous procedures in the NRL so [uto suggest that the rfl would know is somewhat naive.[/u'"
Is it more naive to believe the RFL ( plus club on-the-record assertions ) or the opinion of an anonymous poster on these boards?
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13"Is it more naive to believe the RFL ( plus club on-the-record assertions ) or the opinion of an anonymous poster on these boards?'"
Do you really need that question answering? That's what this board is all about. Someone states a fact and opinions are formed form said fact.
It wouldn't be RLFANS otherwise 
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| Quote LifeLongHKRFan="LifeLongHKRFan"Do you really need that question answering? That's what this board is all about. Someone states a fact and opinions are formed form said fact.
It wouldn't be RLFANS otherwise
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Absolutely not. The above is called a [i'rhetorical question[/i' precisely because it requires no answer.
However, Legends and Icon states that it's not a fact, just an opinion, but sadly you can still be sued for publicising a libelous opinion. Not that the clubs are likely to bother, but clearly a breach of the board rules
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13"Absolutely not. The above is called a [i'rhetorical question[/i' precisely because it requires no answer.
However, Legends and Icon states that it's not a fact, just an opinion, but sadly you can still be sued for publicising a libelous opinion. Not that the clubs are likely to bother, but clearly a breach of the board rules'"
The government has recently changed laws to make it more difficult to sue someone over this type of thing. As people were suing for the slightest little thing. I doubt someone saying a certain club is over the salary cap IMO is libellous
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| Quote Hullandproud="Hullandproud"The government has recently changed laws to make it more difficult to sue someone over this type of thing. As people were suing for the slightest little thing. I doubt someone saying a certain club is over the salary cap IMO is libellous'"
Well, I'm pleased about that, as our libel laws are ridiculous. However, it's still unfair to bandy about accusations with (a) no facts to support them and (b) whilst maintaining anonymity.
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13"Well, I'm pleased about that, as our libel laws are ridiculous. However, it's still unfair to bandy about accusations with (a) no facts to support them and (b) whilst maintaining anonymity.'"
I see what your saying. I personally believe that some clubs manage their salary cap better than others, my club is a prime example of not getting value for money from the cap in recent years. Some people look at other clubs squads and assume they must be over the cap. Like I said in an earlier post clubs like Leeds have manged their cap really well and have probably paid players slightly less than other clubs would have paid those players due to success. If might only be slightly less per player, but over 30 man squad that could be enough for maybe 3 more quality players. I know Gareth Ellis has been rumoured to have taken less money at Hull because of the ambition shown by the owner, whereas in recent years we would have had to offer him significantly more money to get him
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