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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"if other clubs cant grow their crowds because the bigger clubs spend more on players, they dont have money to invest in juniors'"
They could spend it if they avoided spending money on players like Rhys Lovegrove or Damien Blanch
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Effort? I don't seen anyone not succeeding for lack of trying.'"
really? you think all SL clubs are putting every ounce of effort into bringing through juniors?
Quote RichieAchievement? There's only so much to go around. No more trophies will be won.'"
In this context acheivement would be bringing in the required number of juniors
Quote RichieAmbition? They all seem to be trying to win something, hence the influx of foreign signings.'" im not sure thats the case. I dont think all 14 clubs have retained and recruited this season to give them the best chance of winning a trophy either this season or going forward. Some are simply treading water
Quote RichieYou'll have to expand further and in more detail.'"
No problem.
our elite clubs have a duty to the game, if they are the top of the RL pyramid and they are given all the benefits that provides they have a responsibility to the game in this country, That responsibility is to provide a pathway for the young players of this country to fulfil their potential.
We can use a carrot and stick approach through the salary cap to help achieve this. We currently dont
I would like to see clubs who dont invest the time effort and skill into helping as many kids as possible fulfil their potential punished and those who do rewarded.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"really? you think all SL clubs are putting every ounce of effort into bringing through juniors?
In this context acheivement would be bringing in the required number of juniors
im not sure thats the case. I dont think all 14 clubs have retained and recruited this season to give them the best chance of winning a trophy either this season or going forward. Some are simply treading water'"
But this is all within the context of the licensing requirement isn't it? Clubs are doing what they think will earn them the maximum amount of points for the next round of franchising, which will necessarily involve different strategies. Of course your goal of producing more juniors could be achieved through weighting the respective areas differently, this would then better align the goals of the club with the goal of producing more juniors.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"really? you think all SL clubs are putting every ounce of effort into bringing through juniors?'"
It's Super League. Not Super School
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"In this context acheivement would be bringing in the required number of juniors'"
Required for what? This is professional sport, not some addition to the school system.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"im not sure thats the case. I dont think all 14 clubs have retained and recruited this season to give them the best chance of winning a trophy either this season or going forward. Some are simply treading water'"
Who?
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No problem.
our elite clubs have a duty to the game, if they are the top of the RL pyramid and they are given all the benefits that provides they have a responsibility to the game in this country, That responsibility is to provide a pathway for the young players of this country to fulfil their potential.
We can use a carrot and stick approach through the salary cap to help achieve this. We currently dont
I would like to see clubs who dont invest the time effort and skill into helping as many kids as possible fulfil their potential punished and those who do rewarded.'"
With the RFL, BARLA, Summer Conference, National Conference and Champtionship all in place, why are you asking our TV and spectator showpiece and greatest revenue generator to also function as a school system?
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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"But this is all within the context of the licensing requirement isn't it? Clubs are doing what they think will earn them the maximum amount of points for the next round of franchising, which will necessarily involve different strategies. Of course your goal of producing more juniors could be achieved through weighting the respective areas differently, this would then better align the goals of the club with the goal of producing more juniors.'"
Exactly.
This is pro sport. Whilst it's nice if teams can produce junior players, that can never be the prime aim of the league.
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| Quote Richie="Richie"It's Super League. Not Super School
Required for what? This is professional sport, not some addition to the school system.
Who?
With the RFL, BARLA, Summer Conference, National Conference and Champtionship all in place, why are you asking our TV and spectator showpiece and greatest revenue generator to also function as a school system?'"
He seems to be selective in his description of SL , this time he is forgetting it is a business , something he has reminded me of many times
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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"But this is all within the context of the licensing requirement isn't it? Clubs are doing what they think will earn them the maximum amount of points for the next round of franchising, which will necessarily involve different strategies. Of course your goal of producing more juniors could be achieved through weighting the respective areas differently, this would then better align the goals of the club with the goal of producing more juniors.'"
There is no reason both cant be done
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| Quote Richie="Richie"It's Super League. Not Super School'" it is the pinnacle of the game in this country. Not having the necessary pathways to produce enough young players of sufficient quality to not only sustain the game but grow and improve it will lead to ruin. Right now we dont have close to that, we rely on the Australian system for a huge part of it
Quote RichieRequired for what? This is professional sport, not some addition to the school system.'" required to make sure this club that has been granted an opportunity at SL level is actually making a meaningful contribution to SL
Quote RichieWho?'" id rather not get into an inter-club spat, suffice to say i dont think all SL clubs have a plan to get from where they are to the top. Some are happy mid-tablers
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With the RFL, BARLA, Summer Conference, National Conference and Champtionship all in place, why are you asking our TV and spectator showpiece and greatest revenue generator to also function as a school system?'" im not, im asking them to make sure they have the pathways underneath them to bring through as many young british players as possible. Im not asking SL to turn itself in to the SL academy, im asking SL clubs to put everything in place to make sure that more players of better quality and more potential is fulfilled by players leaving SL academies. Im asking them to put more effort and more quality in scouting and training more young players, Which will in turn improve SL, improve the levels below it, improve our international side, and put the game on a much more sustainable and stable footing.
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Exactly.
This is pro sport. Whilst it's nice if teams can produce junior players, that can never be the prime aim of the league.'"
it is one of its prime aims, its what keeps the league going
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"He seems to be selective in his description of SL , this time he is forgetting it is a business , something he has reminded me of many times'"
Im not forgetting its a business. I think it makes business sense. Investing in your employees is rarely a bad thing, Neither is training them to be better
And i dont really think that the game would suffer long term from seeing us replace the likes of Scott Donald or Ryan Mcgoldrick or Michael Korkidas with british players
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Im not forgetting its a business. I think it makes business sense. Investing in your employees is rarely a bad thing, Neither is training them to be better
And i dont really think that the game would suffer long term from seeing us replace the likes of Scott Donald or Ryan Mcgoldrick or Michael Korkidas with british players'"
I'm sure we would all agree , but ultimatley our sport is and was born of the use of proffessionalism to compete with each other , you cannot change that , the only way your utopia would work is when all clubs either revertto the type of union club competition they have had for the last century or you have all clubs so financially rich that they dont need to be competitive with each other to survive
What you want is not viable at the moment , and is unlikely to be viable for a long time , if ever
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"it is one of its prime aims, its what keeps the league going'"
Unfortunatley no it isn't , just as in football I'm sure the Arsenal fans will be more than happy if their ' foreign legion ' win the premiership this year and in the future , eventually premier football could quite easilly become a completely non british competition , will it affect the fans going through the doors or the sponsors contributions ? , no
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