I'd stop now mate. You're fooling no one and you're talking rubbish.

Spongolium wrote:I've been a fan of the saints since I was born.



Nope. Not blind. Just wondered who the hell who you support? COmedy value is rising

You do realise that the crusaders have not been around forever right? You must know that they are a new team that were created on my doorstep. My alligence changed when a welsh team was created.

Ah good for you.

broster, comedy and wales don't really go hand in hand - Spongy is just a sad confused Welshman and I bet his real name is Daffyd

great first season but they need to build on it.



the proximity to the heartland clubs could make the long term difference to their survival over a club like south wales or quins with the extra away fans.



great ground too.



need to concentrate on season ticket sales as the long term future of the club



get 3000 of those and the club will be around a long time

To be honest, I'd be more bothered about Wakefield signing not even NRL standard forwards to keep young talent out. That's Wakefield having been formed in 1873, rather than the Crusaders a few years back.

Shock Horror.



3rd rate Aussie team finishing 8th in SL.



It just shows how far we are behind, in player development.

Just incase anyone is interested in the stats of the "mighty triupmph" of Crusaders for Wales this season, out of the 732 points scored by the crusaders, 52 of them were scored by UK born players yes thats right a whole 13 tries in 27 games, the last of which came on August the 13th, their one and only try from a UK player in that month.



Last season they scored 357 points. Just over 52 of them were scored by UK born players.



Noble might look like some sort of hero right now but the Wesh national team has definately taken a step backwards this season. All Noble has done is add an extra column to his CV achievments whilst the best of young Welsh talent who seemed to be improving towards the back end of the season have been swept under the carpet.



London finished 2nd in super league II with a team full of aussies, and look at them now with their thriving club

Is that the thriving club with No debts, the most british squad in superleague, an academy product on his way to the mighty Saint Helens, teams at every under age and academy level, did I mention no debts, 2 cockney England internationals before LMS was signed by Saint Helens (did I mention that?). The only box quins rl don't tick is on attendances....everything else is just fine and I would go as far as to say thriving. But to posters like you......it's all about attendance figures and too many aussies...



What gets me is that although Crusaders are packed with Australians, they will need time to develop "local" talent. London took 15 years....but this year we fielded an all GB team with 9 academy produced lads......Rome wasn't built in a day. "Other teams" in superleague, with 120+ years of history are signing Australian talent and yet Crusaders who are in their infancy are an easy target for some on here.



Congratulations Crusaders and your fans. Long may it continue

And how did that come about? Oh yes, but London Broncos had the odd debt or 2... quote from the BBC "The club went into liquidation with debts of around £3m."

The club owed 2 people.

The Inland Revenue and David Hughes. David Hughes offered to swallow his debt if the IR let the Broncos pay back the 1.5 million over a period of time. The IR refused, the club folded and the rest is history.......

fail to see you bringing this up has any relevance to the thoery that Harlequins Rugby League are not a thriving club. They have no debts...at all. No overdraft, no loans...just a very patient chairman.

Are you saying it's not fair that a business was allowed to fold, reinvent itself and not have to pay what it owed? If so, I would suggest you take that up with the Inland Revenue....they were offered payment but declined and the other SL chairmen who voted for the broncos to stay. I am sure they had their reasons (1.2 million of them)icon_wink.gif