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| What is the salary cap now?
What's the RFL SL grant a year?
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| IIRC, the Leeds results are only for 10 months (at least, that's what South Stander's resident accountancy expert claimed - it's all far too boring for me to get involved with)
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Try a standard deviation diagram and tell me that Harlequins are representative of SL clubs' financial performance.
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All results fall within +-3 standard deviations of the arithmetic mean, therefore Quins are representative.
You'll have to explain why they're not. Excluding Quins because in YOUR opinion they distort the underlying picture just doesn't cut it I'm afraid.
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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"All results fall within +-3 standard deviations of the arithmetic mean, therefore Quins are representative.
You'll have to explain why they're not. Excluding Quins because in YOUR opinion they distort the underlying picture just doesn't cut it I'm afraid.'"
It's an opinion, I can exclude them if, in my opinion, they are outside a banding that captures the other 10 clubs, like, say +/- £1m from the median. You know, like twice as far away from it as any other club, for example

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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"It's an opinion, I can exclude them if, in my opinion, they are outside a banding that captures the other 10 clubs, like, say +/- £1m from the median. You know, like twice as far away from it as any other club, for example
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Hilarious. What is the statistical significance of the arbitrarily chosen £1,000,000 figure? Where else is the same technique employed that you have used here?
Are Quins within +-3 standard deviations of the mean? If so they fall within the normal distribution of the sample and therefore, that makes them representative, allowing no justification for their exclusion. I'm happy for someone to explain why they should be, but not if it is merely "in their opinion".
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Anyone who isn't profitable shouldn't get a license when they do the next round of farcical promotions.'"
That's RL screwed then!
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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"Hilarious. What is the statistical significance of the arbitrarily chosen £1,000,000 figure? Where else is the same technique employed that you have used here?
Are Quins within +-3 standard deviations of the mean? If so they fall within the normal distribution of the sample and therefore, that makes them representative, allowing no justification for their exclusion. I'm happy for someone to explain why they should be, but not if it is merely "in their opinion".'"
Not that hilarious. Look at the chart. Look at the banding of 10 clubs within the two lines showing £1m and -£1m, also +/- £1m around the median. You need to double that value to include Harlequins. It's really not that difficult. Of the clubs who've posted so far, I think it's fair to exclude Harlequins as they are so far away from the other clubs. Look at the chart, it's not that difficult to visualise.
It's almost as if you're trying to downgrade the financial performance of the rest of the competition so the results of your club are compared to an average distorted by a loss twice as great as the next worst club. Assuming the accounts are filed at some point. 
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Seems like 2009 was a marginally better year financially for some clubs. In 2008, the only club (I think) to make a profit was Hull FC. The league table of profit/loss for 2009 is as follows (assuming I've got the right entities) and shows 4 clubs in profit and a further 3 with a loss < £100k (although I'm being a bit generous with Wigan and using their pre impairment/depreciation/interest number). Leeds profit is before a hefty exceptional income of £3m from a transaction with Yorkshire CC. The average loss excluding Harlequins, which IMO distorts the underlying picture, is -£103,630.
Leeds 720,871
Warrington 159,514
Hull FC 77,141
Castleford 26,679
Salford -19,651
Wigan -40,715
Bradford -72,209
Wakefield -202,379
Huddersfield -823,739
St Helens -861,810
Harlequins -1,936,804
Average excluding Harlequins -103,630
This excludes clubs whose accounts are overdue, ie Hull KR and Crusaders.'" If you were anymore transparent you would be made of glass.
Good day madam.
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| Quote Roverswall="Roverswall"If you were anymore transparent you would be made of glass.
Good day madam.'"
The point I was trying to make was that on the face of it results are a bit better this year. 4 clubs in profit, marginal results for Salford and Wigan (taking the profit from the notes to the accounts) who you'd imagine would turn in a profit this year. Some positive news compared to last year when there was only one club in profit, IMO.
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"The point I was trying to make was that on the face of it results are a bit better this year. 4 clubs in profit, marginal results for Salford and Wigan (taking the profit from the notes to the accounts) who you'd imagine would turn in a profit this year. Some positive news compared to last year when there was only one club in profit, IMO.'" No you were not and your sig pretty much confirms it.
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| Quote Roverswall="Roverswall"No you were not and your sig pretty much confirms it.'"
So you are saying that a thread about the improving results on average of ten SL clubs is actually about Hull KR because I reference some coincidental opinion changes about Craig Hall in my sig from 2 weeks ago. OK then. 
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