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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"That would be, structure the cap to enhance further the dominance of Leeds/Saints I take it.'"
It would be a cap to enhance the domination of clubs based around players they have developed at the expense of those who wont do this
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Even with that there is still the problem that the majority of clubs are unable to finance themselves
Forcing clubs to spend more money bringing through juniors [ who quite possibly will be no better than the ones they currently have will still not help them have money to spend , in fact they will have less'"
this is true, however if it means we lose some of the average overseas players with the funds spent on those encouraged to be spent on youth development instead, which whilst not guaranteed to bring through better youngsters (nothing is) it will guarantee to bring through more, where it becomes in the clubs best interests to spend more training and scouting young players which should follow they will be better
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"It would be a cap to enhance the domination of clubs based around players they have developed at the expense of those who wont do this'"
So you want clubs to offer more money to juniors to get them to sign for their clubs rather than signing for the ' bigger ' clubs
But the clubs you want to offer this money are the clubs who already are the clubs without the money at the moment , therefore leaving them with less money to spend on their 1 st teams
And then the bigger clubs just take these players off the original clubs anyway when they are developed
More money does not neccessarily make players better
All it would do is inflate the market for the juniors we already have
The simple answer is that any player that has not come through a british based clubs academy is counted double on the salary cap , but legaly this could be a problem
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"wigan won the first GF in 1998, as much as that info annoys me to point out!'"
my apologies (i did only look at the ten years preceeding 98 and 10 years after 98, though it seems not 9icon_cool.gif
though one more winner, and that being wigan is hardly evidence of it being much more competitive
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So you want clubs to offer more money to juniors to get them to sign for their clubs rather than signing for the ' bigger ' clubs
But the clubs you want to offer this money are the clubs who already are the clubs without the money at the moment , therefore leaving them with less money to spend on their 1 st teams
And then the bigger clubs just take these players off the original clubs anyway when they are developed
More money does not neccessarily make players better
All it would do is inflate the market for the juniors we already have
The simple answer is that any player that has not come through a british based clubs academy is counted double on the salary cap , but legaly this could be a problem'"
no, i would be happy with a maximum junior wage up to the season after they turn 18, at this point they can sign a pro contract with the club that has 'developed' them not counting on the cap, or with another club where it counts on the cap
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| Quote Richie="Richie"Surely that depends what you think we need them to do?
If you think we need them to compete on equal terms with the rest of the league, then it's fine.'"
i expect more from clubs designated elite
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"no, i would be happy with a maximum junior wage up to the season after they turn 18, at this point they can sign a pro contract with the =#FF0000club that has 'developed' them not counting on the cap, or with another club where it counts on the cap'"
But until you have all clubs at the maximum SC without bancrupting themselves in the process you will still have the big clubs monopolising the best talent
Whatever way you want to bake it , the bottom line is we need all clubs to be self sustaining and able to spend the full salary cap , until that happens you will not have a totally competitive competition
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"i expect more from clubs designated elite'"
Then expect to be dissapointed as well
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"But until you have all clubs at the maximum SC without bancrupting themselves in the process you will still have the big clubs monopolising the best talent
Whatever way you want to bake it , the bottom line is we need all clubs to be self sustaining and able to spend the full salary cap , until that happens you will not have a totally competitive competition'"
so you bring down the cap. Then you have the bigger clubs being able to offer less or get fewer players from other clubs,
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Then expect to be dissapointed as well'"
im happy with what a fair few clubs are doing, we just need to be doing it more
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"so you bring down the cap. Then you have the bigger clubs being able to offer less or get fewer players from other clubs,'"
Not saying what the answer is , just that your answer is not the right one
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| Quote Barnacle Bill="Barnacle Bill"That would be, structure the cap to enhance further the dominance of Leeds/Saints I take it.'"
exactly
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