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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"id wonder why if Wigan broke the rules the RFL felt the need to close a loophole that never existed.
Unless Wigan didnt break the rules?'"

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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"no, you are wrong, they didnt.'"
No, they did:
Quote SmokeyTA="The RFL"The panel found that the Wigan Warriors club had breached the Salary Cap by £222,314 (6.3 per cent.)'"
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"it is still quite a punishment. One that would be unheard of in any other sport.'"
Still not enough of a punishment to stop them from breaching the cap by a huge amount. They did appeal to stop the, harsher, 2007 punishments from being applied.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"it would quite obviously be impossible.'"
As would trying to force clubs to play players they dont want to
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"How hard would it be to have a clause stating that any use of ' loopholes ' will be deemed as being cheating , and cheating gives the RFL unlimited scope to punish the said users of the loophole'"
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Quote StarbugThe Regulations are to be interpreted and applied by reference to, and in a manner that advances, their overriding purpose and specific objectives, as detailed in Clause 1.1, including but not limited to when an issue arises that is not expressly provided for in the Regulations. Such interpretation and application shall take precedence over any strict legal or technical interpretations of the Regulations that may otherwise be proposed.'"
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| Quote SBR="SBR"No, they did:'"
wrong again,
They were punished as per the rules for a 6% breach of the cap. Now im sure even you can work out £220k isnt 6% of £1.7m. So they clearly werent punished for a break of £220k as if they were they would have been deducted 6 points rather than 4
this is because they werent punished for breaking the rules cap, but the spirit of the cap, and as such the proscribed punishment wasnt applied but a different punishment for a different offence
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Still not enough of a punishment to stop them from breaching the cap by a huge amount. They did appeal to stop the, harsher, 2007 punishments from being applied.'"
and again, you are incorrect, they didnt appeal anything. They correctly clarified that it would be nonsensical to apply 2007 punishments to a 2006 breach.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"As would trying to force clubs to play players they dont want to'"
i wouldnt force anyone to do anything.
Simply strongly encourage them to, and reward them for when they do
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| Quote SBR="SBR":1xvwj999Something like:
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"this is because they werent punished for breaking the rules cap, but the spirit of the cap, and as such the proscribed punishment wasnt applied but a different punishment for a different offence'"
Breaching the spirit of the cap is against the cap rules (or was against the 2006 rules, they were rewritten in 2007). They broke the cap, they were correctly punished for it.
Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"and again, you are incorrect, they didnt appeal anything. They correctly clarified that it would be nonsensical to apply 2007 punishments to a 2006 breach.'"
They went to a tribunal to get a ruling against the RFL's decision to apply the 2007 punishments. Makes you wonder if they wouldn't have breached the cap if the 2007 punishments had been in place.
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| Oh, and [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=3102from the horse's mouth[/url. They renegotiated the contracts of several players so they "did not therefore receive monies in 2006". Not so that they were not paid, or paid any less, for playing in 2006.
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| Quote SBR="SBR"Breaching the spirit of the cap is against the cap rules (or was against the 2006 rules, they were rewritten in 2007). They broke the cap, they were correctly punished for it.'"
'the spirit of the cap' is so vague as to be unenforceable. Had Whelan wanted that punishment would have been laughed out of court. Instead he just left the game,
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They went to a tribunal to get a ruling against the RFL's decision to apply the 2007 punishments. Makes you wonder if they wouldn't have breached the cap if the 2007 punishments had been in place.'" Because that decision was obviously wrong.
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| Quote SBR="SBR"Oh, and [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=3102from the horse's mouth[/url. They renegotiated the contracts of several players so they "did not therefore receive monies in 2006". Not so that they were not paid, or paid any less, for playing in 2006.'"
yes, they re-negotiated the contract so that they were paid less in 2006 and re-negotiated new contracts from 2007. Thanks for confirming what i said
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So the rule was there to use , it was just the lack of balls to use the rule [ or lack of will '"
other than it was used.
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