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| something like the halliwell jones for me. Covered standing (with a low roof) tends to generate a great deal more atmosphere than anywhere else IMO. It would be better to have a choice of seating/standing because not everyone wants to sit.
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| From a personal view point I would prefer to still be able to stand, but if an all seater means more options for usage then I could accept being forced to be seated. I suppose it could hinge on what Bradford City decide, but we need to make sure that the Stadium can be used as much as possible. However if the standing area's were behind the sticks it doubtful I would stand there anyway.
So I'm undecided... but like Red said.. I just want it to happen... whether I am seated or stood up..
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| Would like have a stand on the side line which is all standing like south stand at headingley or popular end at knowsley road but if city are going to move in it will probably be all seater
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| I voted for a mixture, like many have said in a similar vein to the Halliwell Jones which is more or less the stadium layout we should be considering in my opinion. I personally really dislike all seater stadiums and don't seem to enjoy the game as much when I've got to sit down.
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| I'd go for three seated stands and one terraced end, meaning that all the vocal home support could gather in one end of the ground and also it would mean that the ground could still be easily utilised for hosting other events like concerts, etc.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"something like the halliwell jones for me. Covered standing (with a low roof) tends to generate a great deal more atmosphere than anywhere else IMO. It would be better to have a choice of seating/standing because not everyone wants to sit.'"
Exactly right. You can't vote for "all standing", so why should those who choose to sit vote to deprive those who prefer to stand?
The "all seater" option is a bad idea and we don't need all-seater stadia in our sport. Doing away with large standing areas can only harm fan interaction, atmosphere and crowd noise.
I fear though that the die is already cast, and all-seater is inevitable. If for no other reason than it assists use for "other sports" especially those where segregation is the thing.
I also think limiting the size to 18,000 is incredibly short-sighted. It's only a moment ago that we had 23K in for Leeds games and we shoot ourselves in the foot if we deprive ourselves of the opportunity for bumper gates. I'd have thought that a capacity of at least 20K should be the aim, and I'd personally go for no less than a 22K stadium.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"
I also think limiting the size to 18,000 is incredibly short-sighted. It's only a moment ago that we had 23K in for Leeds games and we shoot ourselves in the foot if we deprive ourselves of the opportunity for bumper gates. I'd have thought that a capacity of at least 20K should be the aim, and I'd personally go for no less than a 22K stadium.'"
Yep.
And you can get more people in the stadium if there are more standing areas available too.
If you have a stadium with standing areas provided you can always install temporary seating should an upcoming event require it to be all seated for the sake of safety. All seater stadia are a bit "final" IMO.
(hope that makes sense!)
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"
I also think limiting the size to 18,000 is incredibly short-sighted. It's only a moment ago that we had 23K in for Leeds games and we shoot ourselves in the foot if we deprive ourselves of the opportunity for bumper gates. I'd have thought that a capacity of at least 20K should be the aim, and I'd personally go for no less than a 22K stadium.'"
I assume you didn't make it to the forum this time?
Hood mentioned that the 18k is an initial figure which could and probably will rise slightly. The advantage of keeping the capacity realistic to our potential crowds according to Duckett is the scarcity factor. If we have a capacity of 18k, when Hull or perhaps Saints come people will be more inclined to buy a ticket in advance for fear of not getting in. At the moment people will wait until gameday to decide and factor in weather etc knowing that we will never sell out.
I'd rather have a 18k stadium that is almost full rather than a 22k stadium that is half empty each week.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"
If you have a stadium with standing areas provided you can always install temporary seating should an upcoming event require it to be all seated for the sake of safety. All seater stadia are a bit "final" IMO.
(hope that makes sense!)'"
Would that be possible if the standing area's have barriers for spectators?
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"Would that be possible if the standing area's have barriers for spectators?'"
Hmmm. Good point but I am still sure that something could be done if the situation ever cropped up.
I just feel that there should be the choice for people and all-seated arenas take away that choice. Heck, my football team went all seated in about 1992 and I STILL miss standing in my usual area on the terracing. I would hate to see that taken away from people.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Exactly right. You can't vote for "all standing", so why should those who choose to sit vote to deprive those who prefer to stand?
The "all seater" option is a bad idea and we don't need all-seater stadia in our sport. Doing away with large standing areas can only harm fan interaction, atmosphere and crowd noise.
I fear though that the die is already cast, and all-seater is inevitable. If for no other reason than it assists use for "other sports" especially those where segregation is the thing.
I also think limiting the size to 18,000 is incredibly short-sighted. It's only a moment ago that we had 23K in for Leeds games and we shoot ourselves in the foot if we deprive ourselves of the opportunity for bumper gates. I'd have thought that a capacity of at least 20K should be the aim, and I'd personally go for no less than a 22K stadium.'" A point which seems to have been missed by Ryan Duckett is that every 1500 seats cost around 1 million in build costs. So to add 3 to 4 thousand extra seats wold cost another 3 million.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Hmmm. Good point but I am still sure that something could be done if the situation ever cropped up.
I just feel that there should be the choice for people and all-seated arenas take away that choice. Heck, my football team went all seated in about 1992 and I STILL miss standing in my usual area on the terracing. I would hate to see that taken away from people.'"
Well if it can be done, then it's a good idea. Perhaps you can get safety barriers than can be folded down. I am sure these are options that are being considered and Hood certainly didn't rule out having some standing inc in the revisions.
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