Well, last time I watched us play Widnes in a final, we got our botties handed to us at Central Park. Wouldn't mind another go at them.



But on the other hand, a final against a Cas side playing good rugby and back to being one of the top sides? Yes please.



No easy games to be had given how motivated either opponent would be - both are famous old clubs who have waited a long time for a CC final - since the days of Wigan dominance.



I think the winners of Leeds v Wire will be installed as favourites, but I think there are 3 unpredictable games left in this Cup. I just hope we're part of 2 of them!

I don't want to pop your bubble mate, but the fans are not playing the semi, the players are. I wasn't talking one bit about fans, players only.

We've heard it all before.



2008 - oh they are desperate, out in the semi

2009 - they wanna give the competition a real shake up, out in the first round

2010 - we are desperate to win this one, lose final

2011 - we are desperate to win this one, lose final

2012 - we are desperate to win this one, lose final



Essentially it seems this desire to win the trophy that has escaped them, adds pressure and they fail to perform. Because their performance in every CC final since 2003 has been crap. In the grand finals, I'm sure they want it just as much, but they've won so many before there's just not the same pressure.

I take your point, but I thought we played quite well in 2011. We just lost to a better team (at that stage of the season) and didn't quite get the rub of the green.



2005, 2010 and 2012 were definitely cr*p though.



Although you couldn't fault the 2005 final for entertainment.

and I wonder just how many other clubs and their fans would gladly swap even that record of achievment for theirs.

A final against cas would be awful. I'm talking purely from the ''i want to win'' fan perspective rather than the ''let's have a few beers and enjoy a good game'' perspective. Cas would have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and if they won....it'd be armageddon, we'd never hear the end of it. They'd dine out on it for the next 20 years.



Lose against widnes and there'd be nothing, they aren't local rivals.



F*ck a final against cas if we get there. Too much to lose.



I'd enjoy a warrington v cas final more than a leeds v cas one. Go figure.

I get where you're coming from, the way they came back but..........



16-0 down, in a final, after 25 mins. The only way that can be recovered and classed as a good performance is if they win.

Any team that doesn't compete for trophies.



No team that competes for trophies would swap that record in the CC.



Wigan? LOL

Warrington? LOL

Saints? Lost count of how many CC's they've won over the last 15.

I could sit back and enjoy a reall good entertaining game of rugby.



Sure if leeds play i could sit back and enjoy it........when i'm watching the recording after of them winning.

I dont understand anyone who says they can only enjoy a match IF THEY WIN.



They must be myopic, one eyed, arrogant, and rather foolish. IMHO

One of my favourite ever games of rugby was Bradford 19 - 18 Leeds in 99 at odsal. Withers drop goal.