He shouldnt push off unless he gets a call, for the first try you could say Falloon should have pushed, for the next 2 his man was the one who scored as it was even numbers outside, watch it back

On only 1 of the 3 play the balls that Saints scored from did we number correctly.

On the Amor try they had 8 men versus our 5

On the Walsh try they had 6 to our 6.

On the LMS try they had 7 to our 5.



We either numbered up wrong on the long side or didn't get a player out of the tackle quick enough to make another number on the long side. That's why there were huge gaps. Whilst the players obviously talk to each other they can't rely on just hearing a call as to whether to push out or not. They have to use their judgement.

Maybe he made a wrong decision on the Walsh try, but the other 2? The problem lay further infield than Ablett.

Okay lets just agree to disagree, clearly we were taught different defensive systems as kids, because I still maintain that you deal with the immediate threat first and force them to execute the more difficult play, we did that later in the match and their centre spilled it when they had an overlap

Whose job is it to get the numbers right?

Full back.

A few on here have already indicated their preference for the full back in question to be afforded the privilege of being made club skipper!

Club skipper and boxing champion of Leeds Met 2015, that would be a great achievement for the lad

Glad I didn't say that

Our defence certainly had some problems in that game but don't ignore the fact that Saints were kept scoreless in the 2nd half. Not all the credit goes to Leeds for that but you can only play what is put in front of you

Depends why we were short. Looked to me on at least 1 of the times that the tacklers didn't get up and back into the line. So that occasion isn't the full backs fault.

An element of credit has to go to Saints for attacking the right part of the field, getting a quick play the ball, and picking the right pass to cause and exploit those defensive issues.

I doubt we were taught anything different as kids. I'd pretty much agree and coach kids to deal with the threat in front of you.



But you can't stick to that mantra at higher levels. You have to rely on your inside defence following you, even more so when you find you're outnumbered, otherwise you consistently provide an overlap. When you've numbered up right then yes the greater threat is the lead runner. When you haven't the greater threat is outside runner.





Fair enough mate

Maybe but someone has to take responsibility for getting the numbers wrong don't they?