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| It's alright wakeyrule.
I read deeHell's first line, gave up because not only is it the same old drivel, it's also incorrect.
Edit, I did continue - yep: still all drivel.
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| Must say this foe feature is rather nifty
Ah well, they can come see our new stadium for the first game there, which will be a friendly as Cas prepare for Super League and Wakefield the Championship.
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| Quote Bonzo="Bonzo"ASDA can object all they like, the fact of it is, as the only current major supermarket in Castleford, their store is simply not big enough to cope with the demand and shopping there is a complete nightmare. The town desperately needs another major store.'"
So what was the reason behind the Co-op pulling out of Castleford some years ago.
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| Quote dids858="dids858"So what was the reason behind the Co-op pulling out of Castleford some years ago.'"
Probably the move to smaller convenience stores, and impending takeover of Somerfield and need for releasing some stores due to OFT.
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| Casting our minds back....I think that the thread started by asking why Cas weren' at least doing something with the land allocated for the newbuild.
A couple of reasons spring to mind.
1) At the 'Meet the Directors Night', Dicky Wright, Andy Reed and Ian Garforth emphasised that others are wrongly interpreting that the RFL have set an 'absolute requirement' for a new stadium to be built for a successful 2012 franchise bid. Many there questioned this and refered to what the likes of Clarkey, Stevo and Eddie have re-itterated on numerous occasions on TV......our Directors dis-missed these tv pundits opinions as speculative.
2) Andy Reed emphasised that there is no way that the club will sell of it's major asset (Wheldon Road) until (a) The price is right and (b) We have assured ourselves of a 2012 franchise........as it would not be in the best interests of the clubs future.
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| Quote the_grobs="the_grobs"Casting our minds back....I think that the thread started by asking why Cas weren' at least doing something with the land allocated for the newbuild.
1) At the 'Meet the Directors Night', Dicky Wright, Andy Reed and Ian Garforth emphasised that others are wrongly interpreting that the RFL have set an 'absolute requirement' for a new stadium to be built for a successful 2012 franchise bid. Many there questioned this and refered to what the likes of Clarkey, Stevo and Eddie have re-itterated on numerous occasions on TV......our Directors dis-missed these tv pundits opinions as speculative.
2) Andy Reed emphasised that there is no way that the club will sell of it's major asset (Wheldon Road) until (a) The price is right and (b) We have assured ourselves of a 2012 franchise........as it would not be in the best interests of the clubs future.'"
So that would mean that you are considered to be in a similar position to Wakefield re: stadia on franchise decision?
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| Is this going anywhere ?
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"So that would mean that you are considered to be in a similar position to Wakefield re: stadia on franchise decision?'"
No
Quote Trojan Horse="Dead Man Walking"Is this going anywhere ?'"
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| How so?
If both clubs are still in their current stadia, both not started. Groundwork, one has finance, one doesn't and to achieve that will have to sell land which may take time( planning). One has planning and one has been called in.
Seems similar position to me.
And if the above is the case then will both clubs would be judged on their current stadia as it stands?
Would like to see both built by the way, and yes I'm a wakey fan but think if we both got up and running in new stadiums it would be a massive boost for the area.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"How so?
If both clubs are still in their current stadia, both not started. Groundwork, one has finance, one doesn't and to achieve that will have to sell land which may take time( planning). One has planning and one has been called in.
Seems similar position to me.
And if the above is the case then will both clubs would be judged on their current stadia as it stands?
Would like to see both built by the way, and yes I'm a wakey fan but think if we both got up and running in new stadiums it would be a massive boost for the area.'"
100 % right for me
The only tangible difference in the 2 bids is the Admin,
I too would pref both clubs in and both get stadia. But I don't see it happening, what will who knows ??
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| Quote mallcmjlm100="mallcmjlm100"so cas will have traffic problems at wheldon road and so will newmarket as i travel up that rd everyday and trying to turn right at that junction is a nightmare'"
The problem you experience at the end of Newmarket Lane turning right onto Aberford Road (I assume to go to the M62?) is not a traffic volume problem. The issue you have is wait time due to a major dual carriageway road dominating the junction... basically you can't get out because of the frequency and speed of the traffic and having to deal with a split dual carriageway on Aberford Road, but suspect that you are never in a queue longer than a couple of cars to do that. The good news for you is that your problems will be solved if/when Newmarket is built because this will become a signal controlled junction, and while you will be in a longer queue your wait time will be reduced and you will be using a new very safe junction at a currently high rick junction for right-turning. So no, sorry!
As for traffic at the end of Wheldon Road, it is existing traffic volumes at the round-a-bout that is the problem. The only way to solve this and then therefore better cope with the increased traffic volumes as part of any development on Wheldon Road, is to build a new bridge over the river and re-configure the entire junction to suit the dominant flows at peak. A supermarket is probably going to have very little impact on peak week-day traffic at this junction however, it probably will have a huge impact on weekend days. This is where section 106 agreements are going to come into play!
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| Quote binks="binks"100 % right for me
The only tangible difference in the 2 bids is the Admin,
I too would pref both clubs in and both get stadia. But I don't see it happening, what will who knows ??'"
Yep, they are indeed both in the same boat in respect of new stadia because of the funding relying on the sale option of Wheldon Road, which in turn relies on getting planning for 'retail' on this site. If anything Cas's time-frame is currently more open-ended and until a formal application is lodged then you don't even have any idea of the shortest possible time-frame. Although, I think the best time-frame is the one RW has 'sold' to the fans but you need to understand that this is THE best time-frame... it is only ever going to go back, not forward!
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