Do you want to borrow some ' spanners ' , you can lend us them back later in the year

Is a great coach one who gets the best from the best players or makes the mediocre ones as good as the best.

In our league its the latter and Millward is a master at improving what he has, I look at what he did last time at Leigh with what he had, what he did at Saints (Stankovich, Bennett, Stewart, Martyn etc) and I can see every weekend what he is doing again at Leigh. We have a pretty young team with a couple of old heads thrown in, mostly local products who have discovered what its like to be coached properly and have reacted positively to the regime of fitness, diet and personal development introduced.

My biggest disappointment with you guys is that you recruit for a quick fix, no forward planning. The amateur and junior set up in the area is first class, you need to invest in it more supported by a quality coach to bring them through.

And I thought we'd just managed to get rid of all the Leigh fans, then bang! You're all back.

I can guess which one is which, MM! Personally, whereas I understand the frustration and horror what's going on at the moment, we can't keep going mental and chopping and changing everytime we hit a bad spell, it's ridiculous! At least give Calland the full season to show what he's made of. Patience .... it's a virtue .....

and white , as for Maurice , be happy he's taken the time out from enjoying Toulouse to post on your site

I can understand your adoration for Mr Millward, but he's the Neil Warnock of Rugby League. Great tactician and motivator who'll make an immediate impact when he starts somewhere afresh (Wigan apart!), but once he gets his feet under the table ..........

And did you say this when we signed him ?? No everyone was saying what a fantastic signing

I've seen it all before too, poor performances, disappointment, relegation yo-yo team. Back then I remember the fans showing their distain from the Scratching Shed and no doubt in the pubs and working mens clubs the discussions taking place would have been exactly the same as what appears on here day after day.

My opinion is that Calland is not the man for the job. I'm not saying that because we lost 3 on the bounce. I'm saying that on the back of so many poor performances and the lack of reaction to those bad performances. But the deciding factor for me was the behaviour of Mr Calland and Mr Hall whilst in Toulouse last season. Anyone who was there at the time probably thought it was funny but in reality we had a game 5 days later and we all know what happened from there on.

I'm not sure what to say,obviously very disappointed about the result. I can't knock the effort especially in the first half, defended and tackled well andat least completed our sets although our final tackle options were generally poor. 2nd half a lot more concern.how many times did we lose the ball in the tackle,gave away soft pens etc. Confidence is low; there's no apparent leadership out there, we are

missing brannigan and Gleason dreadfully while Nash would add weight and punch to a small 2nd row. I also thought fev went very well. Big pack (that's a recurring theme) , half backs dictating things and a well executed game plan.def top 3 material

Some help for Matt, hes my review of your side, im afraid some of your coaching and selection was on the optimistic side, perhaps the board and Mr Hall should take some blame too for allowing us to have a good side on paper, when the reality is a little more complicated. We look tired in more ways than one. Read a book on Brian Clough or something to see how its done





Starmen

Branighan and Gleeson, without doubt our 2 best players. Great to see Luke get better after the first couple of weeksn.



The young guns - The positives

Ostick - Looked very game indeed, there was a set in the first half where he and Maloney took the first 4 drives between them, thats the spirit, needs more bulk. We made yards and attacked the line, its a simple game isnt it?

Maloney - As above, i was really impressed with his effort, he looks to be getting bigger, and we look better with these guys on.



Dads Army - The not so positives (would have been a great pack 5 years ago - getting out muscled and enthused as a unit now)

Azuie - Not had the expected impact, maybe Hull KR saw this coming, lucky if we get half an hour out of him. Not made hardly any breaks and spilt the ball plenty.

Watene - I keep being reminded of the Blackadder goes Forth '20 minuters' Franks 10 in each half, his couple of drives look good, is that enough? are we expecting too much?

Larder - I feel for Dave, I shouldn't but he looks genuinely cream crackered after a warm up, its a shame because one thing we could never question about Dave was his commitment and effort, i dont want to remember him as a tired defender allowing people to dance past him.

Wrenchy -Dave was never gonna set the world on fire, but he puts in so much effort, id have him in the squad for his enthusiasm, lacks bulk though.

Said -He gets himself about, lacks control though.

Stanley - Still enthusiastic, father time catches us all up though, even Stan.



The others - The er!

Bannister - I still dont know his strengths, i dont dislike him, he doesnt seem to make mistakes, i just cant see what impact he has on the game.

Roberts - The days of people cheering as he bounces off 6 defenders, runs 40 yards back and forth, and gets tackled a yard behind where he started seem to have gone, thankfully, seems to an aversion to dipping his shoulder and running straight., probably due to his size, or lack of it.

Cherryholme - Neil, Neil Neil, take some time off and go backpacking or something, find yourself, just doesn't seem to have becoming a hardened big RL forward on his radar yet, well, the mental toughness side of it anyway.



Saved by the bell

We all know Penkys strengths. we all know his weaknesses, while he is chucking silly passes and trying stupid offloads, its not his fault the pack isnt going forward and not his fault a coach has played him in stupid positions, if we started making in roads, he would come to the fore again with his natural game. I feel the same about Black, hes a match winner and not effective if we cant break sides open in the middle.



The backs

Not having a pack thats laid a platform means they have fed off scraps, very dangerous when we do get parity in the forwards though.

Top post. Have to agree with the bulk of what you have put there. I'm sure you'll get into trouble with the forum police for actually criticising some players but I guess you can only say what you see (said in my best Roy Walker accent).



If we can put together 2 good drives, with quick play the balls, the defence is all over the place and then Penky and Black can play their game. If we don't set that platform then they have nothing to work woth and look very ordinary and are forced into making bad decisions with the ball.